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Title: The rules are... there are no rules. Middlesex Manufacturing Kitbash Contest
Post by: wcfn100 on December 15, 2011, 12:45:57 AM
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-u2lD5MI1Q0w/TumIUnGB1nI/AAAAAAAAGmA/ci6wl_TwcWY/s800/DSC_0016.JPG)

I've got until the 1st of May.


Jason
Title: Re: The rules are... there are no rules. Middlesex Manufacturing Kitbash Contest
Post by: Chris333 on December 15, 2011, 03:33:24 AM
I have a feeling this will somehow require a whole new switching layout  :facepalm:

I gots mines.
Title: Re: The rules are... there are no rules. Middlesex Manufacturing Kitbash Contest
Post by: Pomperaugrr on December 15, 2011, 05:19:54 AM
I'm still waiting for my three...
Title: Re: The rules are... there are no rules. Middlesex Manufacturing Kitbash Contest
Post by: bbussey on December 15, 2011, 11:22:49 AM
I'll be using a few to recreate Jenkins Valve Company in Bridgeport CT.  But since the kit is a stock item and Atlas has a boatload on inventory, I can wait a while before picking them up.
Title: Re: The rules are... there are no rules. Middlesex Manufacturing Kitbash Contest
Post by: MichaelWinicki on December 15, 2011, 12:06:47 PM
It's a terrific kit.

I don't know if there is a "Kit of the year" in N-scale, but this one gets my vote.
Title: Re: The rules are... there are no rules. Middlesex Manufacturing Kitbash Contest
Post by: Ian MacMillan on December 15, 2011, 02:44:00 PM
My 10 came on Monday. I'm waiting for my Christmas $ from mommy so I can buy more. I'm going to be building some huge buildings for the switching layout with these, and I can't wait! As you can see the new track plan is going to require quite a few mill buildings...not all shown.

(http://whiteriverandnorthern.net/images/office2a.gif)

It is a very nice kit, and I hope it stays a regular stock item. Great job Atlas.
Title: Re: The rules are... there are no rules. Middlesex Manufacturing Kitbash Contest
Post by: Ian MacMillan on December 15, 2011, 04:23:15 PM
I have not seen the kit as available; odd that some of you have it.
Illinois must be in a foreign territory.

Here ya go.
http://www.modeltrainstuff.com/Atlas-N-Building-Kit-p/atl-2870.html

And don't forget that the wHOre's can join in as well.
Title: Re: The rules are... there are no rules. Middlesex Manufacturing Kitbash Contest
Post by: wm3798 on December 16, 2011, 11:29:10 PM
Ooh, I think I might have a project!
(http://www.wmrywesternlines.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/Hillen_Warehouse.JPG)

This will make a substantial freight house to sit behind the Cumberland Station... The building shown above is the last surviving remnant of the old WM Hillen Terminal near downtown Baltimore.  The height and massing of the Middlesex kit are just about spot on.  I'll just have to modify the first floor to get the loading bays looking right, and add a little trim work...

Game on.

Lee
Title: Re: The rules are... there are no rules. Middlesex Manufacturing Kitbash Contest
Post by: amato1969 on December 17, 2011, 04:56:18 PM
If you look really close you can see the "ghost" Western Maryland on the wall.  That will be cool on the model!

  Frank
Title: Re: The rules are... there are no rules. Middlesex Manufacturing Kitbash Contest
Post by: wm3798 on December 19, 2011, 10:44:37 PM
Except in my era the rusty sheet metal letters were still there...  that might be harder to model than the ghosts!
Lee
Title: Re: The rules are... there are no rules. Middlesex Manufacturing Kitbash Contest
Post by: Ian MacMillan on December 21, 2011, 10:15:16 PM
Except in my era the rusty sheet metal letters were still there...  that might be harder to model than the ghosts!
Lee

Try chart letters, or sand down those plastic menu board letters.
Title: Re: The rules are... there are no rules. Middlesex Manufacturing Kitbash Contest
Post by: Zox on December 21, 2011, 10:27:26 PM
Except in my era the rusty sheet metal letters were still there...  that might be harder to model than the ghosts!
Lee

Depending on how fast you need them, I could cut out the letters for you with my Silhouette machine. But it would have to be after the holiday season.
Title: Re: The rules are... there are no rules. Middlesex Manufacturing Kitbash Contest
Post by: wm3798 on December 23, 2011, 12:07:01 PM
No hurry...  I need to stockpile some boolah boolah to buy the kits I need.

Lee
Title: Re: The rules are... there are no rules. Middlesex Manufacturing Kitbash Contest
Post by: pnolan48 on January 19, 2012, 09:50:04 PM
I just print my background buildings.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-BFpGU0LZp9o/Thz4LyLzqzI/AAAAAAAAAN0/vgU_okNcepc/w290-h264-k/54-NewburyStreet2.jpg)
Title: Re: The rules are... there are no rules. Middlesex Manufacturing Kitbash Contest
Post by: Ian MacMillan on January 22, 2012, 05:37:35 AM
If anyone doesn't need their window blanks that come with the kits I am in need of em. Thanks!
Title: Re: The rules are... there are no rules. Middlesex Manufacturing Kitbash Contest
Post by: Pomperaugrr on January 22, 2012, 10:50:55 PM
If anyone doesn't need their window blanks that come with the kits I am in need of em. Thanks!

Yeah, Atlas should have included more of those.

Eric

Title: Re: The rules are... there are no rules. Middlesex Manufacturing Kitbash Contest
Post by: Ian MacMillan on January 26, 2012, 10:33:35 PM
Yeah, Atlas should have included more of those.

Eric

I know! I have an entire wall that I want to blank out, and on another building that is a cold storage warehouse I want to black out the entire structure other than the first floor.

Title: Re: The rules are... there are no rules. Middlesex Manufacturing Kitbash Contest
Post by: Blazeman on January 27, 2012, 11:32:11 AM
Being as Ian and Eric are present day, wouldn't cinder blocks have been the product of choice for blocking windows post 1975? Gives a nice color contrast as well. In that case, HO brick might be suitable.
Title: Re: The rules are... there are no rules. Middlesex Manufacturing Kitbash Contest
Post by: Ian MacMillan on January 29, 2012, 11:47:40 PM
Being as Ian and Eric are present day, wouldn't cinder blocks have been the product of choice for blocking windows post 1975? Gives a nice color contrast as well. In that case, HO brick might be suitable.

For me, no. New England mills typicaly built in the 1800s would be brick blanked out in current modern day. Block would actually be a rare 3rd, coming after painted plywood blanks, (in common colors of green, red, or tan)

What also would maybe be nice for someone to do maybe in brass (Bob?) Would be modern windows for those mills that have been turned into condos or office buildings, much like in Lawrence and Lowell, MA, where you have 2-4 IGU panes in alum frames.
Title: Re: The rules are... there are no rules. Middlesex Manufacturing Kitbash Contest
Post by: Guilford Guy on January 29, 2012, 11:52:24 PM
I picked up a kit at the Springfield show. Hopefully I'll have some time to hack into it when I return to school in February.
Title: Re: The rules are... there are no rules. Middlesex Manufacturing Kitbash Contest
Post by: Ian MacMillan on February 17, 2012, 01:41:48 PM
Any one have anything yet?
Title: Re: The rules are... there are no rules. Middlesex Manufacturing Kitbash Contest
Post by: wcfn100 on February 17, 2012, 06:01:11 PM
Any one have anything yet?

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-u2lD5MI1Q0w/TumIUnGB1nI/AAAAAAAAGmA/ci6wl_TwcWY/s640/DSC_0016.JPG)

 :D

Like everything else I do, I'm over thinking it and trying to see if I'll have space for something on the modules I'm drawing or if I should just build whatever.  The biggest difference being if I do something for the layout it'll have to be fairly small and only two stories.  I'll probably start cutting plastic by the end of the week.


Jason
Title: Re: The rules are... there are no rules. Middlesex Manufacturing Kitbash Contest
Post by: Ian MacMillan on February 17, 2012, 06:16:53 PM
haha
Title: Re: The rules are... there are no rules. Middlesex Manufacturing Kitbash Contest
Post by: Chris333 on February 18, 2012, 09:07:58 AM
I used tape to hold my walls together. Do I win?
Title: Re: The rules are... there are no rules. Middlesex Manufacturing Kitbash Contest
Post by: wcfn100 on February 18, 2012, 10:38:36 PM
I used tape to hold my walls together. Do I win?

It would not surprise.

Thanks to Ian and a little horse trading, cutting has started.  Mine will be a three story affair.

Jason
Title: Re: The rules are... there are no rules. Middlesex Manufacturing Kitbash Contest
Post by: Ian MacMillan on February 19, 2012, 03:23:20 AM
Glad I could help....see I'm not an a-hole all the time!  :facepalm:
Title: Re: The rules are... there are no rules. Middlesex Manufacturing Kitbash Contest
Post by: Dave V on March 12, 2012, 09:20:49 PM
I finally picked one up to replace the geographically-incorrect Berwind-White coal mine on my layout:

(http://www.thevollmerfamily.com/Pennsy/tour/Mine.jpg)

Depending on how it all fits, I'm guessing it'll be just a one-track siding (code 55, of course), with a concrete road area and the factory converted to the "J. C. Blair & Co. Keystone Stationery" facility at Huntingdon, PA.  The real J. C. Blair factory looks considerably different, as seen behind HUNT tower in this picture:

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=30381&nseq=44 (http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=30381&nseq=44)

However. the Middlesex building is nice and narrow for the space, conveys the same sense of size, and is still at a height that doesn't exceed the height of the mountain behind it.
Title: Re: The rules are... there are no rules. Middlesex Manufacturing Kitbash Contest
Post by: wm3798 on March 16, 2012, 01:19:50 PM
I finally picked one up to replace the geographically-incorrect Berwind-White coal mine on my layout:

(http://www.thevollmerfamily.com/Pennsy/tour/Mine.jpg)

Depending on how it all fits, I'm guessing it'll be just a one-track siding (code 55, of course), with a concrete road area and the factory converted to the "J. C. Blair & Co. Keystone Stationery" facility at Huntingdon, PA.  The real J. C. Blair factory looks considerably different, as seen behind HUNT tower in this picture:

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=30381&nseq=44 (http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=30381&nseq=44)

However. the Middlesex building is nice and narrow for the space, conveys the same sense of size, and is still at a height that doesn't exceed the height of the mountain behind it.

When you rip out the mine, if it doesn't have any immediate plans, I could make a home for it at Thomas...  I've got the dreadful old Model Power kit that's in desperate need of replacement.  Instead of "Davis Coal" it would be appropriately tagged as "David's Coal"...

Looking forward to seeing how you work that big Atlas building into the space.
Lee
Title: Re: The rules are... there are no rules. Middlesex Manufacturing Kitbash Contest
Post by: Dave V on March 16, 2012, 01:25:41 PM
Lee,

I'm sure we can work something out.  Chances are if I ever do a coal mine again, it would need to be much bigger.  As it is I have a full version of the kit built up as well from the last layout.

This would make a good branchline mine, more appropriate for one of the Clearfield branches.
Title: Re: The rules are... there are no rules. Middlesex Manufacturing Kitbash Contest
Post by: wm3798 on March 20, 2012, 01:28:27 PM
I'll let you know when the scenery reaches that point...  Might be after your son's graduation...

Thanks!
Lee
Title: Re: The rules are... there are no rules. Middlesex Manufacturing Kitbash Contest
Post by: Roger Holmes on May 01, 2012, 11:44:47 AM
OK, got mine done last night just under the May 1 "deadline" for the contest with no rules.  Then took photos which showed a fine layer of styrene dust from last minute sawing that my eyes missed.   Looked like Chicago just had a dusting of snow which is ironic since my building sports a time/temperature sign that is perpetually stuck on 72 degrees!

That and my photo skills are awful and the weathering and brick colors looked gaudy in the photos due to the flash.  I'll try some more photos in the next few days.  In the meantime I'll suck on some  Lemonheads.  Hmmmm.......?
Title: Re: The rules are... there are no rules. Middlesex Manufacturing Kitbash Contest
Post by: Ian MacMillan on May 01, 2012, 12:22:47 PM
I say we dismiss the deadline without prejudice!
Title: Re: The rules are... there are no rules. Middlesex Manufacturing Kitbash Contest
Post by: Roger Holmes on May 02, 2012, 12:27:44 PM
What deadline?
Title: Re: The rules are... there are no rules. Middlesex Manufacturing Kitbash Contest
Post by: wm3798 on May 02, 2012, 12:27:58 PM
As it is written, so let it be done.  I'll have to wait until I build my next layout... the real estate I had planned for that got bought up by some squatters!

Lee
Title: Re: The rules are... there are no rules. Middlesex Manufacturing Kitbash Contest
Post by: randgust on May 03, 2012, 03:34:15 PM
My 10 came on Monday. I'm waiting for my Christmas $ from mommy so I can buy more. I'm going to be building some huge buildings for the switching layout with these, and I can't wait! As you can see the new track plan is going to require quite a few mill buildings...not all shown.

(http://whiteriverandnorthern.net/images/office2a.gif)

It is a very nice kit, and I hope it stays a regular stock item. Great job Atlas.

Are you modelling the B&M region around Lowell?  That is "Middlesex County".   Your 'canal' kind of tips that off.  I've spent a lot of time up there working with NPS on the streetcar project.  I have a lot of building and track photos dating back now almost 20 years.  I have the original B&M track plan in the town, including long-gone stuff like a turntable inside a building to make a 90-degree turn on an island. Seriously.

One of the coolest things about Lowell is the fact that the railroad got there last, and they had to build between buildings, over canals, and in places worse than the B&O docks in Baltimore.  How they got some of the spurs in where they did (like the coal pocket spur diving over the canal and into the second story of a building for the NPS streetcar shop today) is a pretty cool basis for modelling.  This building does look like a typical Lowell/Massachusetts textile mill to me. 

PM or email me if you need Lowell photos, there's actually a lot left up there if you know where to look.
Title: Re: The rules are... there are no rules. Middlesex Manufacturing Kitbash Contest
Post by: Ian MacMillan on May 04, 2012, 01:56:23 PM
Its actually a modgepodge of all my favorite mill towns. Mostly influenced by Lawrence and Manchester.
Title: Re: The rules are... there are no rules. Middlesex Manufacturing Kitbash Contest
Post by: randgust on May 04, 2012, 04:57:20 PM
Well, at least I've been to Lawrence!

I don't think that most casual visitors to Lowell realize that the 'pocket' track by the Visitors Center is actually the remnant of a B&M spur into the mill building alley, that went up there for blocks - parts of the track are still in today.   A  #4 switch (think Peco SLH) and probably a 9" curve, over top of a canal bridge that's made of a nest of girders, then down an alley so tight that two coats of paint on a car side would scrape....

http://www.railwaypreservation.com/vintagetrolley/Lowell_2_sm.JPG

And this kind of thing - the coal pocket at Boott Mills (now the shops) was equally typical.  Just nuts.   Most people think this stuff was built for the trolley and it was all originally freight track. 

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Hvd_S_bMTvQ/Tj9PpTzoFHI/AAAAAAAAB5c/y6wMEGhLJm0/s1600/nhp_streetcar_entering_boott.jpg

Dive off the street, curved trestle over the canal, dive into the building, coal unloading ramp inside for the original boilerhouse.  Made for a handy elevated shop track, all inside.

With that track plan and that building, man, I couldn't resist it if it were me.  I think that the rail service into these Massachusetts mill buildings is one of the great unmodelled areas that has just never been done, right up there with the docksides, the Milwaukee beer line, all of them.
Title: Re: The rules are... there are no rules. Middlesex Manufacturing Kitbash Contest
Post by: Dave V on June 20, 2012, 07:15:56 PM
Change of plans!  I'm going to investigate what it would take to convert the Middlesex Manufacturing building to the old railroad hotel in Lewistown that stood beyond the station up until 1963...

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=247628&nseq=410 (http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=247628&nseq=410)

It will be some radical surgery and it will probably only capture the "feel," but worth a try!
Title: Re: The rules are... there are no rules. Middlesex Manufacturing Kitbash Contest
Post by: Philip H on June 21, 2012, 09:00:36 AM
Dave,
Have you seen Randy Gustafson's hotel build thread over at TB?  MIgbht gain a few nuggets of wisdom from his journey . . .

http://www.trainboard.com/grapevine/showthread.php?141734-Scratchbuilding-the-Commercial-Hotel&highlight=railroad+hotel (http://www.trainboard.com/grapevine/showthread.php?141734-Scratchbuilding-the-Commercial-Hotel&highlight=railroad+hotel)
Title: Re: The rules are... there are no rules. Middlesex Manufacturing Kitbash Contest
Post by: Guilford Guy on July 28, 2012, 03:59:15 PM
I finally got around to working on the three kits I have. Depending how they shape up I may have to order another one or two. In any case, I've been working on a creamery/structure to hide the continuous run connection.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd264/Guilford_Guy/Model%20Stuff/IMG_1167.jpg)
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd264/Guilford_Guy/Model%20Stuff/IMG_1191.jpg)