WOW! Atlas showing U33B and U36B on home page

[Ed Kapuscinski]

No one bought the UB40 s and their Red, Red Wine though.

Truly a missed opportunity up there with the CW60-8E.

[lock4244]

My definition of "Western" is crossing the Rockies, although the exception to that is the Milwaukee, which was by legal determination a Granger road.

So does that make the SP&S a Granger road? I do not believe they actually crossed a mountain range...

[wazzou]

So does that make the SP&S a Granger road? I do not believe they actually crossed a mountain range...

I always viewed the SP&S as a sort of a bridge line, much like the MRL in modern times.

[C855B]

So does that make the SP&S a Granger road? I do not believe they actually crossed a mountain range...

No. "Granger" refers to a cooperative of Midwestern grain farmers in the late 19th century who were pushing legislation to control price gouging by railroads and elevators.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granger_Laws

SP&S was certainly a Western road. I was too glib in "crossing the Rockies" versus "west of the Rockies" operation.

[nkalanaga]

The SP&S really wasn't even a bridge road, but a subsidiary of the GN and NP, built to compete with the UP's access to Portland.  Neither road wanted to pay the entire cost, both were owned by Hill and Co, so they jointly financed the line. 

Until the BN merger it was owned by the GN and NP.  The CB&Q was as well, but it started as an independent railroad, and always had more freedom than the SP&S.

[lock4244]

No. "Granger" refers to a cooperative of Midwestern grain farmers in the late 19th century who were pushing legislation to control price gouging by railroads and elevators.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granger_Laws

SP&S was certainly a Western road. I was too glib in "crossing the Rockies" versus "west of the Rockies" operation.

I know, just having fun.

[u18b]

This is really big thread drift guys.   

Maybe another thread would be better?

[brill27mcb]

Yes, there should be a pinned thread named "Thread Drift" . . .   

Rich K.

[djconway]

This wouldn't be the "TheRailwire" we all know and love if there wasn't thread drift.

[brill27mcb]

Yes, but then Peteski could come along and move all the thread drift messages to the "Thread Drift" thread!

Rich K.

[u18b]

I found it interesting to read that SCL was the first railroad to paint a Bicentennial scheme on a locomotive- and others jumped on the bandwagon.

I love this photo.

https://www.railpictures.net/photo/804742/

By the way.... what is the Santa Fe car behind it?

[wcfn100]

By the way.... what is the Santa Fe car behind it?

Steam generator car.

https://www.railpictures.net/photo/762144/

Jason

[Ike the BN Freak]

Time to start lobbying Railsmith to do the Auto-Train! Perhaps Atlas could do the Auto-Train S2 in a future run as well.

Kato would also be a good choice for the cars being so many were former UP cars, so not much needed to run them.

Wonder how much work it would be to kitbash a later U30B from one of these

[Missaberoad]

Wonder how much work it would be to kitbash a later U30B from one of these

From the GE kitbash master himself earlier in the thread!

And for those who can do a moderately simple kitbash, you can take a U36B shell, cut off the radiator section and splice a U23B radiator section to get a U30B late phase.

[jagged ben]

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I love this photo.

https://www.railpictures.net/photo/804742/
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I love the Remarks and Notes.