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Re: Budd Smooth-side Domes from Lowell Smith
« Reply #30 on: August 10, 2023, 12:23:26 PM »
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   While Lowell's Car is very nice.  Northern Pacific's last NCL diners were SLAB Sided BUDD Cars. Nate Goodman. (Nato).
True enough.  I ate in one of those cars when it was in Amtrak service between NY and Chicago in the 1980s.  It still had the NP logo etched into glass partitions.
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Re: Budd Smooth-side Domes from Lowell Smith
« Reply #31 on: August 10, 2023, 02:20:10 PM »
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   While Lowell's Car is very nice.  Northern Pacific's last NCL diners were SLAB Sided BUDD Cars. Nate Goodman. (Nato).

Yes, delivered 1959 via Grand Central Station in Chicago.

But, Lowell's smoothside diner is still correct for earlier NCL's, and later secondary (Mainstreeter)

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Re: Budd Smooth-side Domes from Lowell Smith
« Reply #32 on: August 11, 2023, 02:07:23 AM »
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Unlike the GN, which bought almost identical diners for both the 1947 and Mid-Century Builders, the NP seemed to buy diners in small batches from different builders.  They also rebuilt them at various times, into different types of food service cars  The GN's stayed basically the same as long as they were in service, other than paint.
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Re: Budd Smooth-side Domes from Lowell Smith
« Reply #33 on: August 11, 2023, 08:15:45 AM »
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True enough.  I ate in one of those cars when it was in Amtrak service between NY and Chicago in the 1980s.  It still had the NP logo etched into glass partitions.

What route was it on? I didn't think a dome car could get into NY(C?) with clearances.

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Re: Budd Smooth-side Domes from Lowell Smith
« Reply #34 on: August 11, 2023, 08:38:32 AM »
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What route was it on? I didn't think a dome car could get into NY(C?) with clearances.

Somehow Nate got us talking about diners in the dome car thread.  The ex-NP diners were still on the Lake Shore around 2012, I ate in one on a trip to the Springfield show! 

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Re: Budd Smooth-side Domes from Lowell Smith
« Reply #35 on: August 11, 2023, 09:32:02 AM »
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What route was it on? I didn't think a dome car could get into NY(C?) with clearances.

Budd diner, not dome.
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Re: Budd Smooth-side Domes from Lowell Smith
« Reply #36 on: June 16, 2024, 11:51:37 AM »
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Lowell shared a low res pre-production photo:

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Re: Budd Smooth-side Domes from Lowell Smith
« Reply #37 on: June 17, 2024, 12:26:49 AM »
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Looks good, but the GN, at least, should have different trucks.  I don't know what type they are, but the ConCor smoothside cars, and most of Kato's Budd cars, look closer.

Of course, this is a pre-production sample, and he might be planning the correct trucks for the finished version.
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Re: Budd Smooth-side Domes from Lowell Smith
« Reply #38 on: June 18, 2024, 01:28:42 PM »
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Fuel for the SP 3/4 dome fire -
SP Silver/Tomato
SP Yellow
SP Daylight
SP Lark (why not?)
Amtrak
Canadian Pacific
KCS Panama Canal
Aberdeen Carolina & Western

These would use the same 8'6" wheelbase Outside Swing Hanger disc brake truck used under the NP/GN domes...

If the NSE Rio Grande/Ski Train Domes can be used as an indicator, there would be a market.

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Re: Budd Smooth-side Domes from Lowell Smith
« Reply #39 on: June 18, 2024, 03:47:13 PM »
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Don't forget Alaska too. 

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They didn't have SP 3/4 domes?

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Re: Budd Smooth-side Domes from Lowell Smith
« Reply #40 on: July 17, 2024, 09:15:16 PM »
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Lowell Smith just announced this car in IC (leased from NP) paint.

https://lowellsmith.net/product/railsmith-n-p-i-c-sleeper-pair/
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