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Re: Broadway Limited Future Plans?
« Reply #45 on: June 20, 2023, 07:21:45 PM »
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Yeah, but this type of logic has NEVER driven model development, sadly.

By this logic, we should have four different manufacturers making the H8-10 series instead of the GG1.
Clearly, the decisions by those various manufacturers to make GG1 models were driven by the widespread availability in N scale of PRR prototype catenary.

At least run a poll asking what product modelers would most likely purchase. Scale train just ran one and one was ran for the F&C PRR project car. Just don't have a pre-reservation meter, lol.
Kato ran a poll. The NYC streamlined Dreyfuss Hudson won.
So, what did they make? A UP Big Boy.

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Re: Broadway Limited Future Plans?
« Reply #46 on: June 20, 2023, 08:13:42 PM »
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B&M Berkshire. A very unique locomotive (which also served the SP and Santa Fe) was just announced in HO.

Yet another "T-1", this time from B&M.  Maybe that's the selection criteria?  :trollface:
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Re: Broadway Limited Future Plans?
« Reply #47 on: June 20, 2023, 09:11:28 PM »
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I didn't watch the entire video where they announced the Ovaltine promo, but skimmed it, did they mention they were going to have a new N scale announcement this week also, or am I thinking of someone else?

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Re: Broadway Limited Future Plans?
« Reply #48 on: June 20, 2023, 10:39:03 PM »
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I didn't watch the entire video where they announced the Ovaltine promo, but skimmed it, did they mention they were going to have a new N scale announcement this week also, or am I thinking of someone else?

They said soon.  Probably early July.  A new N-Scale steam steam announcement anyway.  They also said they would have an announcement for some HO and N scale which turned out to be the HO B&M Berk, HO Big Boy and N-Scale stock cars.
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Re: Broadway Limited Future Plans?
« Reply #49 on: June 21, 2023, 05:41:05 PM »
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Kato ran a poll. The NYC streamlined Dreyfuss Hudson won.
So, what did they make? A UP Big Boy.

LOL

Who said Kato had a western bias?
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Re: Broadway Limited Future Plans?
« Reply #50 on: June 21, 2023, 05:56:19 PM »
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They said soon.  Probably early July.  A new N-Scale steam steam announcement anyway.  They also said they would have an announcement for some HO and N scale which turned out to be the HO B&M Berk, HO Big Boy and N-Scale stock cars.
The BLI stock car is something I will never understand.  It is the functional equivalent of making a baggage car, installing sound so you can hear the passengers chatting, and calling it a coach.
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Re: Broadway Limited Future Plans?
« Reply #51 on: June 21, 2023, 09:33:00 PM »
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Lol, me neither. The mooing etc. is a gimmick, but okay....mildly amusing or irritating, depending on your views of sound. I could live with that, or not. But the solid body..what? The whole point of a stock car is that it's airy and open; a slat, some air, another slat, etc.
And a good, numerous prototype, too. What a waste of tooling...
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Re: Broadway Limited Future Plans?
« Reply #52 on: June 21, 2023, 09:53:20 PM »
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Lol, me neither. The mooing etc. is a gimmick, but okay....mildly amusing or irritating, depending on your views of sound. I could live with that, or not. But the solid body..what? The whole point of a stock car is that it's airy and open; a slat, some air, another slat, etc.
And a good, numerous prototype, too. What a waste of tooling...
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Re: Broadway Limited Future Plans?
« Reply #53 on: June 22, 2023, 06:58:19 PM »
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they said 2 new N-scale diesels...

Hopefully es44dc and sd70m-2

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Re: Broadway Limited Future Plans?
« Reply #54 on: June 22, 2023, 08:49:39 PM »
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they said 2 new N-scale diesels...

Hopefully es44dc and sd70m-2

I'll raise you a properly scaled GP30 and GP35.
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Re: Broadway Limited Future Plans?
« Reply #55 on: June 22, 2023, 08:55:01 PM »
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I'll raise you a properly scaled GP30 and GP35.
without dynamic brakes please
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Re: Broadway Limited Future Plans?
« Reply #56 on: June 22, 2023, 09:14:00 PM »
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Hopefully BLI won't do the GP30.  I wouldn't want anything to affect Scale Trains doing them.

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Re: Broadway Limited Future Plans?
« Reply #57 on: June 22, 2023, 11:18:14 PM »
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I kind of wish BLI would just focus on steam.  They are the only players really pushing the envelope with new steam models.  Bachmann has been re-releasing locos that have been out a while, and Kato only sporadically does a steam loco.

With diesels, you have many manufacturers releasing new models.

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Re: Broadway Limited Future Plans?
« Reply #58 on: July 02, 2023, 02:00:18 AM »
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I kind of wish BLI would just focus on steam.  They are the only players really pushing the envelope with new steam models.  Bachmann has been re-releasing locos that have been out a while, and Kato only sporadically does a steam loco.

With diesels, you have many manufacturers releasing new models.
You meant to say Kato only makes UP steam right?
Yes I'll lump the GS4s in there because UP owns SP anyway.
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Re: Broadway Limited Future Plans?
« Reply #59 on: July 02, 2023, 04:37:47 AM »
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When BLI came out with their Big Boys...six different version of the model, each with distinctive features, I was pretty impressed.  Much moreso than with KATO's release of the 21st century, restored, excursion version 4014...which I won't call a "Big Boy" since it is obviously just the 4014 in present-day form...totally inappropriate for us transition era UP modelers.

The two models of the Big Boy that BLI makes that I am most impressed with are their 1941 and 1944 versions, although I am most impressed with their 1944 version since that's the version I use on my 1947 thru 1956 layout...Big Boys without the handrail-mounted aftercoolers.  Both versions differ appropriately in various details, which says that BLI did some research and gave these models some thought.

Although I wouldn't buy their Excursion 4014, I weathered one up for a customer and it looked pretty good as the restored 4014, even though the boiler cladding was of the original design.  Had a converted Big Boy tender that looked pretty close to a Challenger tender and a modern, safety-applianced oil bunker...and no ash-pans under the firebox.  Obviously BLI had the models designed this way so that the ash-pans weren't integrally cast on so they could be not included on their Excursion 4014 model.  Yes, extra expense and thought, but they did it.  I snipped off the engineer's side ash pan dumping wheel on the model I weathered up, since there isn't one on the oil-fired prototype 4014.

Their Kenefick Version has details and paint that match the prototype on display in Kenefick Park in Omaha...also nicely thought out.

Even though I wouldn't buy one, their two versions of Two-Tone-Grey Big Boys, while being foobs, are correct paint-wise if UP had ever decided to do a TTG scheme on their Big Boys...even to the darker smokebox and blacked-out tires.  The only problem with them is that there was no UP TTG paint on any coal-fired steam engines...so, maybe leaving off the ash pans and plugging in just the tender oil-bunker would have been even more foobishly correct.

Sooo...the point here, is that BLI, when they decide to do another engine, either steam or diesel, is likely to go the extra mile and offer variations between roads/models/time periods/etc. to make a larger market-share happy...which speaks well for the company and, I think, is smart marketing.

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