Who are these guys?

[Lenny53]

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[Mark5]

Evemodel: https://www.eve-modeler.com

https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?topic=51130.0

[Lenny53]

Evemodel: https://www.eve-modeler.com

https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?topic=51130.0

Thanks, nice to see entry level offerings for a change.

[dem34]

And from experience, they aren't that bad either. Atlas resells their pre wired Streetlights. And I bought a pack of their N scale houses. While really generic and simple I haven't really found anything that jumps outs as poor manufacturing quality. Somebody did do a test of their rolling stock trucks and found them a little stiff, same with the couplers, might be that they don't use Delrin.

[bigdawgks]

The consensus I've seen around the internet is that this is an entirely Chinese brand, possibility by a factory that once (or still is) made products for western model rail companies, but decided to have their own independent go at the market.

[bigdawgks]

For more information, these appear to be the same folks behind "Everest Models", a seller on UK eBay selling European N scale stuff. There's a thread about it here:
https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=56267.0

One of the users there made the speculation that this may be a case of "third-shift" counterfeiting. That is entirely a possibility if these cars very closely resemble those from other manufacturers.

[Sokramiketes]

"Chat GPT, design me a farmhouse in the American style"

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[Scottl]

Their decorated containers are pretty good.  Lots of door-end painted detail.

[Philip H]

All of their freight cars are era V European stuff.

[thomasjmdavis]

Their gondolas are 13 panels, which look similar to versions of the Con-Cor product of 30 years ago (also a 13 panel gondola).

[MetroRedLine]

Their decorated containers are pretty good.  Lots of door-end painted detail.

It looks like they have connecting pins. If they're stackable with the JTC/Atlas/Walthers pin spacing, I'd seriously consider these.

[jagged ben]

It looks like they have connecting pins. If they're stackable with the JTC/Atlas/Walthers pin spacing, I'd seriously consider these.

They are. 

They're probably the same as Rolland Industrial, if you're familiar with those.  At least the hi-cube 40ft.

[Scottl]

Yes, they stack well.  The seem to only have one magnet in the center so 40's and 20's don't connect properly.  They sell painted/undecorated versions too that do not come with magnets.
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[MetroRedLine]

They are. 

They're probably the same as Rolland Industrial, if you're familiar with those.  At least the hi-cube 40ft.

Is this absolutely confirmed? If so, I'm sold.

I did buy some of the Rolland 20' and 40' containers when they were released a decade or so ago. They have no pins whatsoever though, only magnets. And unlike JTC, they used magnets on both the top and bottom (as opposed to a metal plate like the JTCs); that resulted in them having opposing polarities with the JTC/Athearn/Kato magnetic containers.

[Scottl]

I'm not convinced they are Roland.  I have a few Roland and they are dimensionally a little different. 

TBH, the containers in question look like JT with a different (plain) floor.