Campaign for Conrail Family Tree release from MTL!!

[learmoia]

Ever since the first Family Tree release, I've hoped for a Conrail Family Tree release, and as I recall @MTLJoe hinted it was a possibility if they were supplied details and examples to put one together.

So, here is what I have so far.. (Focusing on MTL body styles (or close matches) and Conrail Era heritage schemes..
Also trying to stay away from 40' Boxcars, since they were pulled from service so early.

Conrail
Tank Car
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/cr/cr70808akg.jpg
50' Boxcar
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/cr/cr215090akg.jpg
60' Waffle Box
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/cr/cr223026o01.jpg

Penn Central
50' Boxcar
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/cr/cr166481agd.jpg

60' Gondola (May be a Foobie to the new body style but a cool scheme)
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/pc/pc598226ags.jpg
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/pc/pc598289dsa.jpg
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/pc/pc598410ags.jpg

New York Central
50' DD Boxcar
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/cr/cr77011akg.jpg
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/cr/cr77016ams.jpg
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/pc/pc208770v.jpg
60' Autoparts Boxcar
https://conrailphotos.thecrhs.org/sites/default/files/archive_photo/images/39755.jpg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/hunter1828/7651740900

Pennsylvania
40' Plug door boxcar
https://conrailphotos.thecrhs.org/sites/default/files/archive_photo/images/44280.jpg
3 bay Covered Hopper
https://conrailphotos.thecrhs.org/photos/cr-888237-class-h45
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/cr/cr888631bgd.jpg
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/cr/cr888631agd.jpg

New Haven
Added per @bbussey
PS-2 Covered Hopper (Prototypical)
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/nh/nh117073d.jpg
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/nh/nh117073akg.jpg

50' Plug Door Boxcar
https://conrailphotos.thecrhs.org/photos/nh-40603
50' Double Door Boxcar
https://conrailphotos.thecrhs.org/photos/nh-40509

Ann Arbour
?? Would this count?

Erie Lackawanna
3 bay ACF Hopper
https://conrailphotos.thecrhs.org/photos/cr-886119-class-ce16a-1

Gons
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/frt/el16401.jpg
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/frt/el43592l.jpg
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/frt/el43621n.jpg  (I especially like the upside down NYC 5 as a 2 )

Boxcars
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/frt/el63451akg.jpg
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/frt/el68560alb.jpg
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/frt/el68574gea.jpg
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/frt/68574.jpg
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/frt/el68847aga.jpg

Lackawanna
2 bay rib side hopper
http://crcyc.railfan.net/crrs/hop/pred/dlw2006mw.jpg
50' Single door Boxcar
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/frt/dlw12057lbC.jpg

Erie
50' Double Door Boxcar
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/frt/erie067976cba.jpg
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/frt/el67162alb.jpg
40' Boxcars
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/frt/erie84570lbC.jpg
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/frt/erie87013akg.jpg

Reading
2 bay Hopper
http://crcyc.railfan.net/crrs/hop/pred/rdg64721.jpg
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/cr/cr880682aga.jpg
50' Gondola
https://conrailphotos.thecrhs.org/index.php/photos/cr-583735-class-gr52b

Lehigh Valley
50' Boxcar (Really a Foob.. but)
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/cr/cr229770.jpg

3 bay Covered Hoppers
https://conrailphotos.thecrhs.org/photos/cr-887822-class-cl15a
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/cr/cr887366s03.jpg

Central New Jersey
2 bay Covered Hoppers
http://crcyc.railfan.net/crrs/cov/cr/xcnj875083.jpg
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/cnj/cnj-l767akg.jpg

Lehigh Hudson River
2 bay covered hopper
https://conrailphotos.thecrhs.org/photos/lhr-2015
?? Any other Freight car examples that lasted into Conrail?

Raritan River
50' Boxcars but not sure if they transferred to Conrail..
?? Any Freigth car examples that lasted into Conrail?
YES! in MOW.
https://conrailphotos.thecrhs.org/photos/cr-47163

Ironton
?? Any Freight car examples that lasted into Conrail?

Monongahela Railway
Bay window caboose
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1617780

P&E
3 bay Covered Hoppers
https://conrailphotos.thecrhs.org/galleries/pe-covered-hoppers

B&A
3 bay Open Hoppers
https://conrailphotos.thecrhs.org/index.php/photos/ba-910691-class-865h-at-chester-ma-on-31481

Feel free to add more examples!!!..

Honorable Mentions (Cool stuff that doesn't fit MTL body styles)
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/cr/cr892006aga.jpg

[cv_acr]

I think the goal is to specifically have cars patched with CR reporting marks - you provided some examples of this, but a lot of examples of cars simply in their original paint schemes, which doesn't achieve this.

It'd be pretty easy to make a "family tree" set by just throwing a bunch of cars lettered for predecessors into a set.

Conrail is definitely a good one though, there's lots of patched examples that can be dug up.

[cv_acr]

RDG
http://canadianfreightcargallery.ca/cgi-bin/image.pl?i=cr231789&o=conrail
http://canadianfreightcargallery.ca/cgi-bin/image.pl?i=cr885443&o=conrail

EL
http://canadianfreightcargallery.ca/cgi-bin/image.pl?i=cr565700&o=conrail
http://canadianfreightcargallery.ca/cgi-bin/image.pl?i=cr359027&o=conrail
http://canadianfreightcargallery.ca/cgi-bin/image.pl?i=cr359032&o=conrail
http://canadianfreightcargallery.ca/cgi-bin/image.pl?i=cr886435&o=conrail (an interesting one to pull off weathering)

NYC
http://canadianfreightcargallery.ca/cgi-bin/image.pl?i=cr170712&o=conrail
http://canadianfreightcargallery.ca/cgi-bin/image.pl?i=cr276793&o=conrail
http://canadianfreightcargallery.ca/cgi-bin/image.pl?i=cr365708&o=conrail

PC
http://canadianfreightcargallery.ca/cgi-bin/image.pl?i=cr892043&o=conrail
http://canadianfreightcargallery.ca/cgi-bin/image.pl?i=cr892174&o=conrail (weathering challenge)

[bbussey]

The MTL 50’ boxcar models are not prototypical for NH, even though they all are PS-1. I’d rather see a PS-2 covered hopper, as a number of NH survived well into Conrail retaining their original reporting marks and the MTL model is 100% accurate for NH.

[learmoia]

I think the goal is to specifically have cars patched with CR reporting marks - you provided some examples of this, but a lot of examples of cars simply in their original paint schemes, which doesn't achieve this.

It'd be pretty easy to make a "family tree" set by just throwing a bunch of cars lettered for predecessors into a set.

Conrail is definitely a good one though, there's lots of patched examples that can be dug up.

As I was going through most of what I could find 'patched' they painted over all logos/lettering of the prior road (unless you push into the late 80s and 90s when the patch wore off) 
I figured MTL seems to like to maintain the older scheme in a weathered but visible format so I collected both patched and un patched examples.

And I realize I could take a bunch of pre Conrail cars and weather them, but MTL has the capability to do some of these complex weathered schemes that I couldn't do justice.

I figured I'd try.
~Ian

[Ed Kapuscinski]

Ever since the first Family Tree release, I've hoped for a Conrail Family Tree release, and as I recall @MTLJoe hinted it was a possibility

Oh holy ***** I'd be so in!

I am pretty sure this has been done numerous times before though, but I absolutely want to see it done now with MTL's current capabilities.

I feel like it's just a matter of time before @ai5629 and @GonzoCRFan do a big info drop.

[learmoia]

I am pretty sure this has been done numerous times before though, but I absolutely want to see it done now with MTL's current capabilities.

All I can think of for previous attempts is:
Fox Valley producing the NS Heritage fleet and NSE following up with a Caboose run.
And MTL did that Conrail Heritage 5 pack in the mid 1990s.
Maybe NSE did some other stuff I'm not aware of.

[Ed Kapuscinski]

I know there was also an Atlas 3 pack of predecessor air slides too.

[learmoia]

I know there was also an Atlas 3 pack of predecessor air slides too.

Oh yeah, the Airslides: PC, ERIE, and one other.

I wouldn't put the previous efforts into the same category as what MTL is doing now.

~Ian

[lock4244]

You'd think CR be a natural for this, if they didn't invent patching equipment, they sure made it an artform.

[mu26aeh]

The EL car was the one that started it all, so you'll have to find another 😁

[learmoia]

The EL car was the one that started it all, so you'll have to find another 😁

Done...

I also found some EL Patched ERIE Boxcars and added those to the Erie List.

In the case of Conrail for the patches..
Maybe CR Patch the cars for the roads that directly became Conrail.
Then EL Patch the Erie and Lackawanna cars.
PC Patch the NYC, PRR, and NH Cars

[learmoia]

I also found this on the Canadian Southern Website.

It appears to be a complete inventory of freight cars transferred to Conrail with the intended CR assigned numbers.
https://www.canadasouthern.com/caso/images/CONRAIL-RENUMBERING-LIST.pdf
725 Pages
34,075 Records Printed.

Initials included:
AQCX
BA
BCIT
BWC
CASO
CNJ
DLW
DTI? 26886-26899 and 219976-220889
EL
(But Erie wasn't included?)
GACX (Looks like leased covered hoppers)
LNE
LV
MDAX
MFVX
NAHX
NH
NIFX
NJDX
NYC
PAE
PC
PCA
PCB
PRR
RDG
TOC
URTX

725 Pages
34,075 Records Printed.

[Tristan Ashcroft]

I also found this on the Canadian Southern Website.

It appears to be a complete inventory of freight cars transferred to Conrail with the intended CR assigned numbers.
https://www.canadasouthern.com/caso/images/CONRAIL-RENUMBERING-LIST.pdf
725 Pages
34,075 Records Printed.

Just went and downloaded THAT immediately.  Thanks!

[learmoia]

Just found a CR Patched Raritan River 40' Boxcar in MOW Service..

(I wonder if you could do the whole series in MOW cars..?)