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Re: I've started getting dirty!
« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2005, 03:44:35 PM »
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Latest update on the end-to-end weathering process on my layout and fleet :

Thx to Randgust, especially, who urged me to get my locos/fleet dirty.  That
led to ballasting the entire railroad (which took about 1/2 year as well). 

It pays off.  Here's some weathered SD24's working the Santa Fe's Peavine Line:   



Closeup of the trailing unit, SD24 947:



Standard Atlas SD24's - weathered with Bragdon Enterprises weathering powders - great
product and very fast.  Pollyscale Grimy Black on the trucks and fuel tank. 

Continuiing to weather *everything*.  That'll keep me busy for another 1/2 year or so!
But along with the ballast, big big improvement:



Of course, now I need to start weathering the ballast.

Good thing this hobby is *supposed* to take a long time.   ;D
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Re: I've started getting dirty!
« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2005, 03:56:01 PM »
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Very subtle, I like it.

And I recognize that Chessie RBL, I have one myself, and it's quite well weathered...

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Re: I've started getting dirty!
« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2006, 02:45:21 AM »
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Here's another update:

I'm in the process of weathering the entire fleet.  This will probably
take at least till end of summer 2006 at the rate that I can go - but it's fun.

This is stage 1 weathering.  After I get the entire fleet dusted/dullcoated/painted
to a base level, then I will go back and start to individualize different cars:







Will carry on thru the entire fleet........ (smile)
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Re: I've started getting dirty!
« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2006, 09:56:01 AM »
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Here's the latest status update, about 9 months later after the first entry in May/June 2005:

Got the three GP7 Zebra's weathered and snapped off a quick shot of
them running a reefer train thru Glendale, Arizona:



Thx for all the ideas and tips here on this Weathering forum - it helps greatly.

As for how long it's going to take me to weather the entire fleet - no way I'll get finished by summer 2006.   
At least till end of the year if not longer.

Anybody have any idea how many hours total you've put in on weathering your fleet?   

For me,  to do the basic weathering shown, using mainly Bragdon Enterprises weathering powders and
handpainting trucks/wheels , it works out to about 1 hour per car/loco.   I've done about 15 locomotives
and 40 cars in the last 9 months ........ probably about 25% of the fleet has been done at best.

(smile!)
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Re: I've started getting dirty!
« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2006, 06:20:59 PM »
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John, I have the tendency to blitz through weathering cars...

I did ten in one night a while back. They're not all prize winners, but none of them look out of place in a train either.

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Re: I've started getting dirty!
« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2006, 02:34:31 PM »
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Another update.

Started working on the Kato Santa Fe freight F7s (1996 run):



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Re: I've started getting dirty!
« Reply #21 on: May 07, 2006, 02:36:15 PM »
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Then, last week, I finished off the remaining B units to fill out the set of ABBBA Santa Fe
freight Kato F7s (from the 1996 Kato run):



Even though Intermountain is coming out (eventually) with N scale Santa Fe freight F7s,
I prefer these older, non-DCC-capable Kato F7s for their lower ride appearance, closer
coupling with Unimates, and silky smooth mechanisms (did need to oil/tune the mechanisms
after all these years).   

Overall, I happen to like the hunkier, heftier appearance that I think these old
Kato F7s have.

Here is a closeup of the lead F7, Santa Fe 272L:



The pilot / trucks / fuel tank on these Kato Santa Fe freight F7's are hand-brush painted with
Pollyscale acrylic Grimy Black.

I mask the part of the body shell that is below the yellow stripe (i.e. fuel tank cover and grab
irons), and hand-brush them Grimy Black as well, so that they match with the trucks/fuel tank.

Then, weathering is done with Bragdon Enterprises weathering system (his adhesive-impregnated weathering 'chalks').

I don't use the weathering chalks on the trucks, obviously, to avoid gumming them up. I do the
weathering with the shell off to avoid gumming up the split-frame and motor for the same reason.

FYI, the numberboards and kickplates on the cab doors are done the old fashioned way - cut out
individual numbers and individual kickplate decals from MicroScale Decals number 60-793 'Data
for EMD E and F units', and apply (patience is a virtue in this operation!). Getting the size
of the numbers on the numberboard right was a multiple-LHS-visit exercise in trial and error
with several different Micro-Scale decal sets, before I finally found/settled on the 60-793s.

In the case of the number boards, once I got the numbers positioned properly and dry, I
applied to the numberboards a coat of MicroScale Gloss to simulate the numberboard glass.

In the case of the kickplates, I applied them carefully, then applied Microscale Sol to allow
the decal to snuggle down over the 'bolt details', then applied MicroScale Flat over them to seal them on.

The tiny little 'Fuel' decal I applied to the sideframe's fuel tank filler is sealed with a
downward brush of Microsoft Gloss, using that Gloss to double as looking like spilled fuel.

Naturally, the decals and Gloss/Flat sealing coats all go on first, then afterwards the
weathering chalks are applied.

Thx to Randgust and others who have supported me in upleveling my modeling.

This is probably 'Stage 1' of the weathering.  Later, much more could be done at the detail level - we'll see how much time I have.

Just weathering the entire fleet to this basic level is clearly going to take all of 2006 and beyond..... but it is fun as hell and well worth it.   Thx to modern technology such as the Bragdon Enterprise weathering system, even *I* can do this (smile!).    If I can, anyone can!
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Re: I've started getting dirty!
« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2006, 12:44:43 AM »
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A lot of great work there John!! I like how your layout looks too!!!

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Re: I've started getting dirty!
« Reply #23 on: May 24, 2006, 01:39:17 AM »
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stay dirty! you will only learn more that way. all looks good too! time will improve you,.... as i can see, it has started. keep up the good work!

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Latest weathering project
« Reply #24 on: June 28, 2006, 01:33:10 AM »
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Hi, all, my latest update in this weathering saga;  a freight car project finally completed this past week.

I do look forward to 'someday' when I'll truly have some more time for the hobby.   Right now, between family and work, it's 30 min here, 30 min there, spread over an entire week or two, just to get just one boxcar done with a basic job.  No time for doing all the little improvements that I can imagine.  Regardless, this *is* fun even to do it at a basic level......   :)





This red MT boxcar Santa Fe 40' Hi-Cube was lowered, used body-mounted Z scale MT
905 couplers, painted trucks, and given a light weathering job with Bragdon
Enterprises weathering powders.

This project was inspired by Tom Mann, his superb job of lowering and
weathering this same MT boxcar, which he shared in a thread started 5/24/06:

http://forum.atlasrr.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=28931

His results are *so good*, it inspired me to try my first lowering job shown above.

Check out his thread above if you missed it the first time around.

Thx, Tom, for your inspiration and advice; I could not have done it
without your help.


Other notes:


1) Yes, I know the rail needs touchup paint to cover the 'bright' spot!


2) The lowering job is especially needed on this car.  From http://www.nscalesupply.com ,
here is a shot of the original much-too-high Micro-Trains Santa Fe 40ft Hi-Cube boxcar:


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Re: I've started getting dirty!
« Reply #25 on: June 28, 2006, 04:55:06 AM »
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Nice car John! I hope to get into some minor kitbashing/modifying here in the near future myself!

Tom's a good fella-even tho he got his air hoses on the wrong side!

(apologies Tom-the responses to that thread had me laughing so hard-I couldn't resist!)
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Re: I've started getting dirty!
« Reply #26 on: August 17, 2006, 01:05:09 PM »
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Here's the latest.

Santa Fe, in the 1960's, had a habit of humongous lashups of blue/yellow
freight diesels:



This lashup of early to mid-1990's Kato/Atlas GP35s and GP30s,  all came from the Kato factory with
blank numberboards... you can see why I needed a way to save time in applying the numberboards!
http://home.comcast.net/~atsf_arizona_2/Easy_N_Scale_Locomotive_Numberboards.html

Santa Fe 7519 below is a GE U23C, which I'm reasonably sure
never showed up on the Peavine  Line in real life..... however, the big bulky brutish look of them
seemed like a good project to do.   Santa Fe actually had twenty of these 'oddball' U23C's,
purchased from General Electric in about 1968, for service on Santa Fe's Raton Pass line between
La Junta, CO and Albuquerque, New Mexico:



So here's a shot of an entire Santa Fe lashup, all 9 diesels.... took a fair amount of time to
weather them all, but what a positive difference it makes! :



Thanks again, all, for inspiring me to get started.

Next project..... Santa Fe FM H12-44 from an old Minitrix.
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Re: I've started getting dirty!
« Reply #27 on: September 04, 2006, 02:12:28 PM »
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Try hunter scenery co weathering products will not harm decales or paint. If you do not like it or have applied to much just re-wet with with the product and wipe off. If you like the way it looks then you can seal it with cheap hair spray Check out the site www.huntersceneryco.com Thanks William

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Re: I've started getting dirty!
« Reply #28 on: September 04, 2006, 02:46:46 PM »
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That looks really spectacular John!! Great job and a job well done!!!!

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Re: I've started getting dirty!
« Reply #29 on: December 25, 2006, 08:31:43 PM »
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Just keeping the thread up to date.... starting weathering passenger diesels and passenger cars .... they look *much better* lightly dusted as well.   



I am at peace with not being a super-detail artist.

The locos and rolling stock is just so much better looking with Bragdon Enterprises weathering powders and painted -grime-washed trucks/wheels......   The overall look is well worth the effort.

Still looking the time needs to weather the whole fleet - not a small task!


 
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