New N scale Tie System from Central Valley Model Works

[C855B]

I'm going to give these a try they sold out too fast at MBK, here's a picture they have on Facebook of the weathered N scale ties. https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/t31.0-8/fr/cp0/e15/q65/12496291_10153694689750660_1659675717550788703_o.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9

Those look good. I would be more interested in them in a Code 40 version, however. The "uneven ties" is a very nice touch... but only when modeling lesser trackage such as sidings, yards and shortlines. The depiction of varying maintenance attention would be out of place on a heavy Class I mainline.

[ryan_wilkerson]

Looks good in the photo! Great discussion...looking forward to ordering some of this.

[robert3985]

Those look good. I would be more interested in them in a Code 40 version, however. The "uneven ties" is a very nice touch... but only when modeling lesser trackage such as sidings, yards and shortlines. The depiction of varying maintenance attention would be out of place on a heavy Class I mainline.

To the contrary.  A bit of research shows Class 1 Mainline trackage also has "uneven ties"...plenty of 'em.
Photo (1)-U.P. mainline trackage Echo Canyon circa 2012/2013...


As usual, actual on-site research often proves model-railroad-"truisms" as being not so true....

Cheerio!
Bob Gilmore

[wcfn100]

As usual, actual on-site research often proves model-railroad-"truisms" as being not so true....

Well anyone modeling 2012 Echo Canyon should be very excited then.


Jason

[sirenwerks]

CVM's HO product line has a mainline tie offering and siding offering. The prime difference is longer ties for the former.  A code 40 version of the latter would be nice to represent sidings.

[Mark5]

Definitely will pick some up as soon as MBK re-stocks. Cant wait to give it a test!

Mark

[jagged ben]

But track needs two rails.   

I made that mistake too.     At least I feel better I wasn't the only one.

And I was using unweathered rail.  So, ~$1.47 per foot of track.

I think where I might find this most useful would be in adding ties to the ends of hand laid turnouts.  Current methods are to glue on wood ties, or to pull the ties off the end of flextrack and then push them back on the ends of the rails of turnouts, which is tedious.   

I like the idea of laying out a yard ladder and using these entirely for the ties between turnouts.   Just leave the rail long enough on the turnouts to meet in between, carefully lay out all the ties needed between turnouts, and then glue down the ties first and the turnouts second.  It would be nice if they produced turnout sets, although one could use Fast Tracks Quick Sticks mixed with these if they don't. 

With that said, I'm a little leary of rail held in place entirely by glue, even pliobond.  I'll want to hear of people's experience.   

[wcfn100]

With that said, I'm a little leary of rail held in place entirely by glue, even pliobond.  I'll want to hear of people's experience.

The CVM ties strips don't use glue.

Regarding Pliobond or similar, it can be messy and will probably fail somewhere at some point. But repairs are easy, just run a hot iron over the rail.  My Dad may have been the first (maybe only?) to use Aspen models dual gauge track which was bonded rail to laser cut ties.  The layout spent time in MN, AZ, and CO, and even with wood webbing along the whole base of the rail, it still popped.

Jason

[jagged ben]

The CVM ties strips don't use glue.

...

I thought that people said upthread that the rail is glued to the ties.  Am I missing something?

[wcfn100]

I thought that people said upthread that the rail is glued to the ties.  Am I missing something?

In the HO system, you push over the plastic spikes to hold the rail.  Now the N scale system doesn't appear to have as many spikes, but I assume the smaller rail doesn't need it. Maybe the N scale needs glue, but I haven't seen that.

Here's a pic showing the process.



Jason

[wazzou]

I know that the N Scale bridge ties have spikes that get pushed over to hold the rail. 
Conceivably, that would be the same process for the track ties.

[TLOC]

In HO there are 3 types of ties, one of them does have the pushover pins to hold the rail. Follow this link http://www.cvmw.com/cvt.htm it shows all 3 tie strips. I use the branchline type strips.

As I state up thread I use a combo of Barge cement and MEH mixed together, applied with a q-tip to the bottom of the rail and then applied to each tie with a mini brush applicator. The bond is excellent My rail has been down since 11/2014 and only 1 12" spot has popped. I just got out of a hospital bed today but in the next couple days I can get to the layout and show some pictures. I thought it was a great way to lay track, I used code 70 ME weathered rail.

The CVMW website is very informative, my LHS street price was 25% off the retail.

Tom

[svedblen]

In HO there are 3 types of ties, one of them does have the pushover pins to hold the rail. Follow this link http://www.cvmw.com/cvt.htm it shows all 3 tie strips. I use the branchline type strips

That explains it, because there was definitely no pins on the tie strips I was using. Thanks Tom

[jmlaboda]

Seems to me that you could use these tie strips to model this...

[ Guests cannot view attachments ]

[Curtis Kyger]

In response to WAZZOU's  March 10 post:  9' ties were used by ATSF, CP & UP.  Not sure about CP today, but BNSF & UP now have a "standard" of 8' 6" length but  still  use 9' in some applications.  (UP also uses 8' in yards, industrial tracks and in some sidings.)