MTL Horse car 1/1/16!

[jmlaboda]

On the L&N cars (which are similar although rivet pattern may be different based on published photos of pre-production car bodies), does anyone know if they have end doors?

No end doors...

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[Lemosteam]

The PRR plans indicate end doors and a round roof as well although different hinge arrangement:

http://prr.railfan.net/diagrams/baggage//sm_b74b.gif

perhaps a Shapeways roof replacement and some overlay etchings for the doors.

[Nato]

      Do not forget "Wheel's Of Time is also soon to release a SP Horse Car. The MT was supposed to be based on the 70' cars, the WOT car the 80 footers. Nate Goodman (Nato). "Oh boy almost Pennsy Theatre Scenery Car". 

[thomasjmdavis]

Thanks Jerry!  Will be a simple enough conversion, and I am sure I can use the end doors on something else.

[chicken45]

The PRR plans indicate end doors and a round roof as well although different hinge arrangement:

http://prr.railfan.net/diagrams/baggage//sm_b74b.gif

perhaps a Shapeways roof replacement and some overlay etchings for the doors.

@Lemosteam That's the wrong car. That's a B74b. The B74a did not have end doors or arch roof.

[thomasjmdavis]

And later on, the B74a lost its windows

[arbomambo]

Question for the Espee types:
Apart from the roof, is this car accurate for any class of SP 70' horse car?

[Lemosteam]

@Lemosteam That's the wrong car. That's a B74b. The B74a did not have end doors or arch roof.

@chicken45 , you missed the point.  It may be easier to convert the MT car to a B74b horse car than a B74a.  The B74b is still a 70' car with three doors, AND the end door,  the trick is the roof.

[chicken45]

@chicken45 , you missed the point.  It may be easier to convert the MT car to a B74b horse car than a B74a.  The B74b is still a 70' car with three doors, AND the end door,  the trick is the roof.

I did miss the point. What's wrong with doing it as a B74a?

[arbomambo]

Even though this may not be an SP prototype car, as offered by MT, I may still be able to use this release as a donor car for an ATSF bash.
A few ATSf 70' heavyweight baggage cars were built with end doors, as on the horse car....
like this one...



This will be another fairly simple bash using the M&R sides for the 70' baggage!
Bruce

[Lemosteam]

I did miss the point. What's wrong with doing it as a B74a?

Because the MT model clearly has end doors and the B74a does not. That might be hard to hide.

[peteski]

I wonder if MT will be able to offer models with or without the end doors depending on how they assemble their molds?

[thomasjmdavis]

Bruce,
I had the same thought (M&R sides).  Where do we find the trucks? (242A, IIRC)

Tom D

[chicken45]

Because the MT model clearly has end doors and the B74a does not. That might be hard to hide.

...Oh. 

When I looked at the pics, I wasn't able to tell if it were just normal MTL doors with diaphragms or the full car width doors.

[Joetrain59]

Have these cars ben released yet?
 Joe D