FWIW The new Bachmann Catalog is up

[Ike the BN Freak]

How long are the Micro Trains paired window coaches...? 75'...72'....???????

Thought they were in the 80ft range.  Either way, the MTL cars would need more work I think.

[Cajonpassfan]

How long are the Micro Trains paired window coaches...? 75'...72'....???????

I believe the coaches are the same as the ones heretofore only available with the Doodlebug.
Still, nice to see some new product coming out, although I'm just as befuddled as Dr.V about yet another GG-1.  Bachmann must believe that DCC sound will drive the market. Perhaps they are right, time will tell. Their HO version sure looks exquisite, to this west coast guy, anyway.
Otto K.

[Dave V]

I went back and looked at the prices...and they made me a little sad.

The Kato G is still around for less than $100 on the streets...  You can DCC one up and still be at well less than half the MSRP for the Bachmann one.  I wonder what the Bachmann street price will be.  Not bashing here, just bewildered.

[asarge]

I wonder what the Bachmann street price will be.  Not bashing here, just bewildered.

Wholesale should be in the $150-$175 range depending on the retailer. If some clown is willing to sell at $20 over cost, you'll be lucky, but I'll bet these get dumped in the end. The Kato GG's are good loco's and at a lower price. It flubbergasts me to think, when they could've done so many other things AND slapped sound in them, why a GG1 in a saturated market.

[nscaler711]

Bachmann is an odd duck... In N scale they have trolleys and the E60, Metroliner, Acela, and the HHP-8, and I've got two HHP-8s... Very nice locos... So the GG1 isn't their first, just as long as its not their last *cough* AEM-7 *cough*.....
But id like to see their GG1, I'm sure theirs will at least have overhead capabilities unlike Katos... The HHP-8s could be run off overhead catenary so hopefully the GGs will be too.

[wcfn100]

I went back and looked at the prices...and they made me a little sad.

The Kato G is still around for less than $100 on the streets...  You can DCC one up and still be at well less than half the MSRP for the Bachmann one.  I wonder what the Bachmann street price will be.  Not bashing here, just bewildered.

Nothing new here.  The new Bachmann F7 and NW2 are both $40 more than Kato's retail price and that's with just DCC not sound like the GG1.

Lower quality at higher prices.  The economy can't be that bad. 


Jason

[sirenwerks]

Too bad Bachmann's not releasing its new trailers as separate items.

The split windows on the coaches are an oddity, no?

BTW, time for SPFs to stop complaining.  They got two PRR-only releases in one blow.  Not to mention all the other PRR-only models out.

[victor miranda]

I went back and looked at the prices...and they made me a little sad.

The Kato G is still around for less than $100 on the streets...  You can DCC one up and still be at well less than half the MSRP for the Bachmann one.  I wonder what the Bachmann street price will be.  Not bashing here, just bewildered.

Dave?

I am a little past surprised at your post...

you can use the b-mann  N&W J with the comparison to the b-mann Hvy-Mtn and arrive at the same puzzle.

The folks a bachmann think it will sell is about the only real answer.

victor

[Denver Road Doug]

The HHP-8s could be run off overhead catenary so hopefully the GGs will be too.

I had some of the HHP-8's for a while (side project that faded away and I sold them) and was intrigued by their ability to run off catenary. 

I wonder if we could read into this as Bachmann is working on a Northeast Corridor Cat system for n-scale?   That would be huge.

[wcfn100]

BTW, time for SPFs to stop complaining.

They can keep on asking for whatever they want as long as Bachmann is the one who makes it.   

Jason

[bbussey]

The paint/deco schemes on those Bachmann Gs are corrent though, and they are releasing schemes that Kato hasn't.

If they don't move, they will get dumped on the market at bargain-basement prices.  It happened with the Doodlebugs, the TOFCs, the single-dome tanks, and others.  The availability period will be short, but it will happen, and that will be when to grab some.  Amazon will be the outlet to watch.

And, isn't that the trailer coach from the doodlebug?  They finally are releasing it, which is a good thing.

[victor miranda]

Too bad Bachmann's not releasing its new trailers as separate items.

The split windows on the coaches are an oddity, no?

BTW, time for SPFs to stop complaining.  They got two PRR-only releases in one blow.  Not to mention all the other PRR-only models out.

I think sirenwerks likes chewing....
believe me when I say I chuckled at your post.
in many ways I agree. 
I'd like to voice just two counter points....
one .... I do not recall ever thinking I wanted b-mann to make any of the models they have picked.
two .... is it really so much harder to make something that has not been done?

b-mann could hit two outta the park if this announcement was for
a GG1 AND the PRR M1

ummm.....
is the PRR coach the third PRR specific item?

victor

[sirenwerks]

ummm.....
is the PRR coach the third PRR specific item?

No, I was thinking more along the line of previously released items like X29 boxcars, Bowser hoppers, and Kato Broadway Limited... 

Come one, give others a chance.  Where's the Milwaukee post 1950s Hiawatha and Little Joes, the NP NCL, or GN EB? Not that I want Bachmann to do those...

[bbussey]

Bachmann is an odd duck... In N scale they have trolleys and the E60, Metroliner, Acela, and the HHP-8, and I've got two HHP-8s... Very nice locos... So the GG1 isn't their first, just as long as its not their last *cough* AEM-7 *cough*.....
But id like to see their GG1, I'm sure theirs will at least have overhead capabilities unlike Katos... The HHP-8s could be run off overhead catenary so hopefully the GGs will be too.

The pantographs will be what I'm interested in seeing — whether they are equalized-sprung or not, and made available as a separate part.

[victor miranda]

No, I was thinking more along the line of previously released items like X29 boxcars, Bowser hoppers, and Kato Broadway Limited... 

Come one, give others a chance.  Where's the Milwaukee post 1950s Hiawatha and Little Joes, the NP NCL, or GN EB? Not that I want Bachmann to do those...

last night I read that the PRR owned 10 to 15 percent of the rolling stock in the U.S.
as far as I am concerned... us SPF _are_ giving you a chance.

Also, I think you should be able to get along nicely with that
excellent Atlantic and string of cars they sold with it...

And didn't I see someone selling one of those funny looking outside ribbed cabeese?
you need one of those, right?

what else could you possibly want?
I am sure now that b-mann is done making the SPF overjoied
they will gladly work on tickling your fancy!

victor