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Re: Shapeways for PRR Catenary
« Reply #30 on: April 13, 2015, 02:23:03 PM »
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I have a PDF someone did of Pennsy cat, complete with HO scale drawings and dimensions, including the brass rod and rail sizes to use for the poles. I'll have to go find it later today,

Phil

Perhaps you are referring to this?

http://pennsyrr.com/kc/model/downloads/catenary.pdf
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Re: Shapeways for PRR Catenary
« Reply #31 on: April 13, 2015, 02:24:55 PM »
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There are some simpler PRR cat styles...

http://www.smarttinc.com/email/NL-1013/spotlight-1013-1.jpg

That looks like the same "k style" towers that DFF posted. They just don't have the transmission towers on top.
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Re: Shapeways for PRR Catenary
« Reply #32 on: April 13, 2015, 02:35:12 PM »
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That looks like the same "k style" towers that DFF posted. They just don't have the transmission towers on top.

They are...which obviates the need to cast or scratchbuild insulators.

That said, the transmission towers are where the real PRR character is.  Nothing says being back East like seeing a line of rusty PRR cat poles stretching toward the horizon.

One can readily determine one's location in Lancaster County, PA by finding the nearest line of Pennsy catenary.
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Re: Shapeways for PRR Catenary
« Reply #33 on: April 13, 2015, 03:05:13 PM »
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Perhaps you are referring to this?

http://pennsyrr.com/kc/model/downloads/catenary.pdf

If I recall, yes, although I know I didn't come across it on the KC site,

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Re: Shapeways for PRR Catenary
« Reply #34 on: April 13, 2015, 03:31:32 PM »
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One can readily determine one's location in Lancaster County, PA by finding the nearest line of Pennsy catenary.

Wow, I can admit to doing that.    And not that long ago, either.   I was headed south from Strasburg and was getting kind of lost in the boondocks until I spotted towers.....ah, HA!

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Re: Shapeways for PRR Catenary
« Reply #35 on: April 13, 2015, 09:35:03 PM »
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True to Shapeways' need for obfuscation, it is not clear if FXD and FUD are the same acrylic material.

Yes, according to a response on the Shapeways forum both FUD and FXD are the same material the only difference being FXD is higher res. but what that also means is the parts will be denser as well, so they should be stronger.
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Re: Shapeways for PRR Catenary
« Reply #36 on: April 14, 2015, 01:40:31 AM »
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For the liftout section, assuming it lifts straight up, take a look at the lift bridges on the Northeast Corridor.  No need to build a working model of their mechanism, but just look at the complicated anchor frames.  Then build something similar at both ends of your liftout, with matching frames on the fixed and moveable sections.  The "wires" would be brass rods, or maybe pieces of upside-down code 40 rail, with the two pieces at each joint overlapping.  Make sure the overlap is on the fixed layout, and that the fixed section doesn't extend over the liftout.  Bend the very tips of the overlaps up slightly, so the pans don't snag, and you have a simple, reliable, and easily removed liftout catenary section.  No need to physically connect the two pieces, as the pans will slide over the two overlapped sections.

Why rail?  The flat base would be easier to solder, and make a more durable joint, and it might be a little less likely to deflect vertically.  The actual catenary wire could terminate at the frames, making sure that it's even with the bottom of the overlap sections.  One way to do that would be to extend the overlaps on both sides, and bend them upward slightly on the "catenary side", so that the pans would follow them down from the wire level, rather than trying to make the wire and overlaps exactly match.

I did much the same thing on my MILW staging track.  It doesn't move, but the wire terminates just inside the tunnel portal, and the rest of the track uses code 40 rail for the overhead.  The end of the rail is bent up, so it's higher than the wire, and the wire is angled up from the first support frame, so it terminates above the rail.
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