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Paradise275

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Sorry, I thought Neolube was a lubricant!
« on: February 10, 2015, 12:56:36 PM »
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Posted in error.

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Re: Sorry, I thought Neolube was a lubricant!
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2015, 02:04:33 PM »
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It is a lubricant (and designed to be just that). But (like WD40) people came up with 1000s of other uses for it.  :D
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Re: Sorry, I thought Neolube was a lubricant!
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2015, 02:44:55 PM »
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OK then, I'll repeat my original question.
The Athern bi-level commuter cars don't roll very well. Would Neolube on the axel shaft help make it roll better?

Rick

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Re: Sorry, I thought Neolube was a lubricant!
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2015, 05:25:47 PM »
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That depends on why they don't roll well.   Lubricants can only do so much.
If the axles or the bearing holes they run in are not smooth, or they are tight in the holes,
 it won't help if you dip that thing in a Texas oil well.   If, however, there is just some
mild rubbing friction, then neolube might help, and it would be better than oil because it
won't leave a sticky oily surface that just collects dirt.

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Re: Sorry, I thought Neolube was a lubricant!
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2015, 05:53:14 PM »
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Thanks Max.
They roll but not as smoothly as they should.
Now to find some Neolube in Canada.

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Re: Sorry, I thought Neolube was a lubricant!
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2015, 06:38:13 PM »
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Thanks Max.
They roll but not as smoothly as they should.
Now to find some Neolube in Canada.

Rick

The answer here, folks, is for somebody up there in Canada, who also regularly visits the US, and has
friends or a relative with a US mailing address, to have me mail it there, and then you can pick it up the next time you visit (assuming you are driving, not flying... although since the jar is only 2 oz I *think* you would be
within the airline limits of 3 oz for the flammable liquids like aftershave).

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Re: Sorry, I thought Neolube was a lubricant!
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2015, 07:51:15 PM »
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So I can take 2OZ of Neolube in a carryon on a plane but not a box cutter...

I can airmail a box cutter, but I can't airmail neolube... 

Yeah.. that makes sense...  :facepalm:  ~Ian

.. Wait.. what If I put the Neolube in the boxcutter.. then can I mail it?  :trollface:
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Re: Sorry, I thought Neolube was a lubricant!
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2015, 07:58:27 PM »
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I still don't know what this stuff is. Seems it's also a blackener of some type but I guess it's slick too and will wipe off?
« Last Edit: February 10, 2015, 08:00:03 PM by tehachapifan »

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Re: Sorry, I thought Neolube was a lubricant!
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2015, 08:24:25 PM »
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I don't think I would take NeoLube on a plane in an unmarked container.  The graphite content would probably set off some alarms.

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Re: Sorry, I thought Neolube was a lubricant!
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2015, 08:48:01 PM »
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I still don't know what this stuff is. Seems it's also a blackener of some type but I guess it's slick too and will wipe off?

Use the search feature in the forum and find the thread we had about it earlier - it is explained in excruciating detail.  :)
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Re: Sorry, I thought Neolube was a lubricant!
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2015, 10:55:00 PM »
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Good point about the graphite.  It is dense, conductive, and might set off something.
(Run for your lives.... it's GRAPHITE!)

Seriously, I see your point.

Neolube is extremely finely ground graphite powder in alcohol.  Because it is so finely ground, it is able
to penetrate the tiniest surface cracks and pores, and after the alcohol evaporates, it leaves a semi-gray-metallic
looking finish from the graphite. 

It is not a stain or a paint.  But you can think of it more like a stain because it does seem to stain porous surfaces.
On metals and plastics it still adheres quite well, unlike a stain.   About the only place it won't hold up is
on moving parts that rub over each other constantly.  That will wear it off (like on wheel treads).
I find that if you get the metal clean first (clean off any oil), it holds up to handling quite well, even on
loco valve gear and rods that get touched a lot.



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Re: Sorry, I thought Neolube was a lubricant!
« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2015, 12:17:51 AM »
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Is the Neolube version you're selling #1 or #2?

If it is #2, there are some interesting facts about it (from http://www.newmantools.com/chemicals/neo2pds.htm )

NEOLUBE NO. 2 is an exceptionally stable compound of processed micro graphite and thermoplastic resin in isopropyl alcohol. Coatings are easily applied to an ultra-thin opaque film during manufacture or assembly by brush, spray or dipping; it dries in seconds to a slippery, lustrous, adherent film of purest graphite.

So, it is more then just graphite in alcohol. It seems to be almost like paint (where the resin is a binder).


NEOLUBE NO. 2 is a dry film conductive lubricant used extensively ... as an anti-seize compound, thread lubricant and for lubricating moving parts and rubbing surfaces. The thinness of the coating, coupled with high lubricity, provides clean long wearing lubrication without redesign of component dimensions.


NEOLUBE NO. 2 resists abrasion and lubricates threaded parts, moving parts and rubbing surfaces. This material allows easier assembly and nondestructive disassembly.


NEOLUBE NO. 2 It does not migrate and is non-freezable. NEOLUBE NO. 2 provides a non-corrosive dry adherent lubrication for metal parts with limited clearances in applications where control of impurities is required.

So it supposedly does not migrate - that was one of the possible problems with it mentioned in the original Neolube thread
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Re: Sorry, I thought Neolube was a lubricant!
« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2015, 01:04:35 AM »
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It is No. 2, and yes, you're right.  There is more to it than just graphite and alcohol.  Maybe you're right.
The resin may be the key to it.
I noted on the MSDS sheet that they won't divulge how much of each ingredient it contains, claiming it
is a proprietary formula.


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Re: Sorry, I thought Neolube was a lubricant!
« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2015, 07:24:37 AM »
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It is No. 2, and yes, you're right.  There is more to it than just graphite and alcohol.  Maybe you're right.
The resin may be the key to it.
I noted on the MSDS sheet that they won't divulge how much of each ingredient it contains, claiming it
is a proprietary formula.

If there is resin or binder in the formula, then it is more like paint.  Most stains also contain resin/binder.  The resin/binder is important to performance. 

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Re: Sorry, I thought Neolube was a lubricant!
« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2015, 10:19:46 AM »
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Got mine the other day, always good to know more about it's properties and uses-  1000+......really..... Tell me more! 
Modeling Southern and N&W in the southeast.