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Re: Planned centercab transfer unit bash
« Reply #135 on: May 02, 2014, 12:15:38 PM »
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As for the idea of doing one using the Minitrix H12-44...
http://nzrailwaysrollingstocklists.weebly.com/dsc---bth-bo-bo-of-1959.html

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Re: Planned centercab transfer unit bash
« Reply #136 on: May 02, 2014, 01:15:09 PM »
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Ok,

I have 2 "very" small center cabs from Kato  # DD13  :D

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Re: Planned centercab transfer unit bash
« Reply #137 on: May 02, 2014, 03:38:23 PM »
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That BLT is making me hungry for more! :D

Looks like the SD80MAC frame might be a touch too short.  Can you flip the trucks around or something to get the wheelbase closer to the ends?

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Re: Planned centercab transfer unit bash
« Reply #138 on: May 02, 2014, 05:12:42 PM »
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That BLT is making me hungry for more! :D

Looks like the SD80MAC frame might be a touch too short.  Can you flip the trucks around or something to get the wheelbase closer to the ends?

Lee

SD-90-43MAC I don't know if that matters though . The trucks can be reversed , but this IS the spread out max direction . Once done I will hide , adjust , add to , cover-up , mask , trick the eye into accepting that what you're seeing ain't so bad , I hope .

Up dated progress today on the BLT .





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Re: Planned centercab transfer unit bash
« Reply #139 on: May 02, 2014, 05:47:49 PM »
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Richie, I love both of them. Got my minitrix shells and ready to go....

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Re: Planned centercab transfer unit bash
« Reply #140 on: May 02, 2014, 06:23:19 PM »
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Truck spacing? Check the prototype plans  :trollface:

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Re: Planned centercab transfer unit bash
« Reply #141 on: May 02, 2014, 07:53:20 PM »
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 :ashat:


Yeah, yeah, it's a Lima I know... :trollface:
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Re: Planned centercab transfer unit bash
« Reply #142 on: May 08, 2014, 05:44:35 PM »
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Up dated progress today on the BLT .





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It sounded like a good idea at the time... too bad the caboose wasn't in on the plan.

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Re: Planned centercab transfer unit bash
« Reply #143 on: May 08, 2014, 05:49:54 PM »
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BLT

BL- Twin.

I love the BLT name!

hahaha  :lol:
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Re: Planned centercab transfer unit bash
« Reply #144 on: May 08, 2014, 08:18:02 PM »
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Sorry I'm late to the party, and I hate to burst your bubble, Richie, but the prototype BL1 and BL2 were known to have a weak frame.  Because the BL units lacked a "real" frame like subsequent Geeps which are body-on-frame, they were not nearly as strong.  Geeps' bodies provide little, if any, strength.  However, the BL1 and BL2 only had a truss in each side, providing most of their strength.  You can see the rivets in the shape of the truss in the "chainguards."  Unlike Geeps, though, F units and BL units' car bodies provided strength, but the BL1 and BL2 had those unique notches cut in for visibility which did nothing to retain the strength of an F unit car body. In fact, although EMD probably had ideas that the BL line would phase out the F units, covered wagons continued to be built for several years after the BL2 was discontinued.

I'm no structural engineer, but it would seem that nearly doubling the length of a BL unit without beefing up that truss or installing a real frame underneath would cause some serious problems.

However, Rule 1 always applies, so keep up the great modeling.

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Re: Planned centercab transfer unit bash
« Reply #145 on: May 08, 2014, 08:26:06 PM »
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Sorry I'm late to the party, and I hate to burst your bubble, Richie, but the prototype BL1 and BL2 were known to have a weak frame.  Because the BL units lacked a "real" frame like subsequent Geeps which are body-on-frame, they were not nearly as strong.  Geeps' bodies provide little, if any, strength.  However, the BL1 and BL2 only had a truss in each side, providing most of their strength.  You can see the rivets in the shape of the truss in the "chainguards."  Unlike Geeps, though, F units and BL units' car bodies provided strength, but the BL1 and BL2 had those unique notches cut in for visibility which did nothing to retain the strength of an F unit car body. In fact, although EMD probably had ideas that the BL line would phase out the F units, covered wagons continued to be built for several years after the BL2 was discontinued.

Yes indeedy. The BLs were just shy of an engineering disaster, and their lack of structural strength doomed them to light switching and shortline duty until Geeps took over the market.

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Re: Planned centercab transfer unit bash
« Reply #146 on: May 08, 2014, 11:07:44 PM »
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Sorry I'm late to the party, and I hate to burst your bubble, Richie, but the prototype BL1 and BL2 were known to have a weak frame.  Because the BL units lacked a "real" frame like subsequent Geeps which are body-on-frame, they were not nearly as strong.  Geeps' bodies provide little, if any, strength.  However, the BL1 and BL2 only had a truss in each side, providing most of their strength.  You can see the rivets in the shape of the truss in the "chainguards."  Unlike Geeps, though, F units and BL units' car bodies provided strength, but the BL1 and BL2 had those unique notches cut in for visibility which did nothing to retain the strength of an F unit car body. In fact, although EMD probably had ideas that the BL line would phase out the F units, covered wagons continued to be built for several years after the BL2 was discontinued.

I'm no structural engineer, but it would seem that nearly doubling the length of a BL unit without beefing up that truss or installing a real frame underneath would cause some serious problems.

However, Rule 1 always applies, so keep up the great modeling.

DFF

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Re: Planned centercab transfer unit bash
« Reply #147 on: May 09, 2014, 12:44:38 AM »
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Hey.

The BLT uses a lot of duct tape!

She'll hold together just fine.
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Re: Planned centercab transfer unit bash
« Reply #148 on: May 09, 2014, 07:13:46 AM »
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The strength in this unit comes from the "a" frame trusswork under those fancy angled sides to support the weight between the axles!

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Re: Planned centercab transfer unit bash
« Reply #149 on: May 09, 2014, 01:59:31 PM »
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It's strength comes from magic. Dark magic, yo.
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