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Re: Pennsy M1
« Reply #15 on: November 06, 2013, 09:21:14 PM »
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Its amazing that you guys missed the 9 or so page thread on the K4 named aptly Pennsy K4!



Seriously, is off-topic pettiness really going to get another one of Jason's threads locked while he's trying to do a phenomenal service to the n scale community?  Can we please stay on topic here.
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Re: Pennsy M1
« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2013, 09:26:23 PM »
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Ah damn......Its a good ole fashion-   FOOD FIGHT!!

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Re: Pennsy M1
« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2013, 09:47:03 PM »
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Riddle me this; what does a resin shell have to do with a ready to run manufacture produced steam locomotive?  :? 

LOL

Yeah, I smell troll.  :trollface:

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Re: Pennsy M1
« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2013, 09:56:52 PM »
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Troll? im most definitely not that.

Well towlie, it has everything to do with a non brass, but VERY detailed shell for your lovely "modelling" talent to slap on a chassis that you can pick up for $100 give or take. Did i go too far with the "modelling" part? Im just helping you guys (SPF) see how you are and am by no means mucking up a thread. Youd be surprised that some of my "modelling" is in jasons castings.

As for off topic pettiness, why cant i lock up a thread when you guys always seem to do it with your lack of a RTR K4 rants. Is that at all biased?
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Re: Pennsy M1
« Reply #19 on: November 06, 2013, 09:59:12 PM »
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Legitimate discussion about disappointing demand is one thing.  Taunting condescension is another.  And yes, there are many folks out there unwilling to do the work on a resin casting who still want an RTR K4. We can question their committment or modeling skills to ourselves, but it doesn't change the fact that many still demand an RTR K4, especially in light of how many other road-specific steamers are now RTR.

I have kitbashed multiple PRR steamers as have many, many others, so don't lump all SPFs together as an RTR crowd.  We're some of the most anal kitbashers out there.

Play nice.

Jason, I'm sorry the K4 was a disappointment.  My question is still valid, though...  How much play did it get outside of the Railwire?  I'd like to get it on the PRR N Scale Yahoo group if you still have some around.
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« Reply #20 on: November 06, 2013, 10:28:56 PM »
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No problem Dave, I should have done a little more research, which is why I am throwing it out there on the M1.  I produce the castings simple to try and expand the hobby and keep some models alive.  For those who build your own engine... there is no greater satisfaction in the hobby
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Re: Pennsy M1
« Reply #21 on: November 06, 2013, 10:34:28 PM »
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Troll? im most definitely not that.

Well towlie, it has everything to do with a non brass, but VERY detailed shell for your lovely "modelling" talent to slap on a chassis that you can pick up for $100 give or take. Did i go too far with the "modelling" part? Im just helping you guys (SPF) see how you are and am by no means mucking up a thread. Youd be surprised that some of my "modelling" is in jasons castings.

As for off topic pettiness, why cant i lock up a thread when you guys always seem to do it with your lack of a RTR K4 rants. Is that at all biased?

I went back and looked at the Pennsy K4 thread, looking specifically for your comments, you are a troll with anger issues. Let me know what shells you had a hand in and I'll be sure to stear clear of those, hopefully it wasn't the K4.  :P

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Re: Pennsy M1
« Reply #22 on: November 06, 2013, 10:58:53 PM »
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Well, before this thread gets locked, Jason, I'm in for an M1.  I'd prefer a B in prewar configuration, but I also understand that I'm probably in the minority.
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Re: Pennsy M1
« Reply #23 on: November 06, 2013, 11:13:33 PM »
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I went back and looked at the Pennsy K4 thread, looking specifically for your comments, you are a troll with anger issues. Let me know what shells you had a hand in and I'll be sure to stear clear of those, hopefully it wasn't the K4.  :P

Here's a picture of MY H10 "modeling". Enjoy draskouASShat!!





No anger issues here lil buddy. just simply stating the obvious. Nice work on your H10. Guess you better not buy anything to do with the 9000 class 4-12-2.

Honestly, you have to laugh at the few times people make fun of the whole "we want a K4 and we want it NOW" due to the overwhelming people that get pissy. Jason and i had numerous conversations about the K4 among every other resin shell he brings out and i honestly found it funny how few actually sold for the "demand".



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Re: Pennsy M1
« Reply #24 on: November 06, 2013, 11:25:11 PM »
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As I said, I missed the K4 anouncement, and in addition to that, I have goodies from the motorman waiting to go...



but, this still doesn't prevent me from asking for the K4. So.....

What's funnier the people who keep asking for the K4 or the same people who complain about people asking for the K4?   :RUEffinKiddingMe:



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Re: Pennsy M1
« Reply #25 on: November 06, 2013, 11:33:54 PM »
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Only thing I don't get is why the shells are so expensive.
Afterall, it's only resin.

As for I1s, I have what very well may be the very last unused Camden & Amboy Models conversion shell for the minitrix Decapods.
Just needs a bit of cleanup and it's good to go, if I can find a cheap chassis...


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Re: Pennsy M1
« Reply #26 on: November 06, 2013, 11:39:54 PM »
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Only thing I don't get is why the shells are so expensive.
Afterall, it's only resin.

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Re: Pennsy M1
« Reply #27 on: November 06, 2013, 11:42:35 PM »
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Jason, I don't have a dog in this hunt.  But I am thinking of some other modeling considerations.
Those siderod bearings on the J are big Timken roller-bearing type.  I think that would take more than filing to
fix and it would really stand out as weird looking on a PRR M1 if it wasn't.

How about the tender length on the J?   Is it long enough?  The long-distance tenders on the M1 were long.
Would it require stretching the tender floor?

So there are some challenges to this, but I do think it would make a nice M1.

I have a J myself and it is a good running engine.  I bought it for kitbash
fodder years ago and have never had quite the right project that needed it.  It ran nice right out of the box when I tested it,
and that doesn't happen often.


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Re: Pennsy M1
« Reply #28 on: November 06, 2013, 11:45:48 PM »
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Thanks Max,

Rods are very easy to file, here are the files rods from my Mt4 build. I could have done more filing and shaping to the rods but I was happy with this (it only took about 10 minutes per side). And on just about every build I do the tender has to shortened or lengthened. The only real problem I see would be the crosshead..  But some compromises are worth it.
MT4 casting on Bachman J Class Mech

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Re: Pennsy M1
« Reply #29 on: November 06, 2013, 11:58:37 PM »
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As I said, I missed the K4 anouncement, and in addition to that, I have goodies from the motorman waiting to go...



but, this still doesn't prevent me from asking for the K4. So.....

What's funnier the people who keep asking for the K4 or the same people who complain about people asking for the K4?   :RUEffinKiddingMe:

hey there is only one of me in 2 threads...... i think theres an army of you peoples................
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