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Erik PRR

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Catskill division - a freelanced PRR branch
« on: September 27, 2012, 04:51:22 PM »
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 I'm from Sweden and live quite a busy life with three preschool kids and lots of work. Sometimes however I can spend an hour in our basement where my n-scale world is growing. I'm modelling a what-if-scenario where the forgotten Delawere & Eastern RR was purchased by Pennsy, and instead of being drowned by the Pepacton dam it became an important connection between the PRR main lines and New England. Such great railroad connections made the Catskill communities of Margaretville and Arkville far more prosperous than the dull reality ever has managed.

The track plan and some revised maps can be found here: http://catskilldivision.com

Along with this layout ive been building a small Inglenook sidings switching puzzle where I've been able to try some scenery techniques. The last improvement was repainting the backdrop. I was rather pleased with the result, although it definitely smells more like mushroom picking season in Sweden than Appalachian fall.

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Re: Catskill division - a freelanced PRR branch
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2012, 07:47:46 PM »
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Nice concept Erik!

What sort of locomotives do you plan on running?

I've got a friend who started on the Pennsy in 1955, and at least around here they ran a lot of RS1's on locals.

According to him it was an interesting time on the PRR.  A lot of the grandeur of the old PRR was still around, but the infrastructure was beginning to show its age.  Road maintenance crews were being cut back and a lot of "visual" maintenance things like weed spraying and painting were being ignored.

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Re: Catskill division - a freelanced PRR branch
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2012, 07:57:51 PM »
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I like the plan, nice yard and spur and a sweet town spot, with plenty of running. Looking forward to more updates
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Re: Catskill division - a freelanced PRR branch
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2012, 02:11:30 PM »
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Michael: Well, the roster is kind of a mosaic... I decided on modelling Pennsy because I could run (and buy...) almost any first generation diesel. So I have both C-liners, a couple of RS-11 and GP-7, an F-unit and a few switchers. I also included B&M in my concept; through freights Boston - Enola now and then rumble through behind colorfull maroon F-units or a couple of Alco roadswitchers instead of monochrome PRR-diesels.

If I would start over, I think I'd go more for focusing on a few diesel models from one or two manufacturers. I really like the Alco RS and think they would fit in the concept of small stations along a branchline very well.

Is it prototypical (when modelling the PRR) to mix all kinds of diesels like this, or did they try to use engines from as few manufacturers as possible on every division?

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Re: Catskill division - a freelanced PRR branch
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2012, 09:21:33 PM »
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Erik, if you're modeling the PRR in the 50's you may want to consider adding "Trainphone" antenna and such to the locomotives and cabins.

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Re: Catskill division - a freelanced PRR branch
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2012, 01:04:12 AM »
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Eric,
From what I have learned in the research I've done for my layout, the Pennsy used every make of diesel built. In the 40's and 50's there were Alco PA's. RS-3's RS-1's and S models. They had E-7's and E-8's from Electro-Motive, Fairbanks-Morse Train Masters, C liners and Erie Builts. They purchased Baldwin road switchers, switchers, "centipedes" and "sharks". Even G.E. 44 ton switchers were on the roster.

They purchased these units the same way they purchased (or built) steam...by the hundreds. Altoona never built any diesels that I know of (I think Juniata shops closed down in 1946), but the purchasing department bought them from everybody.

In the early years of deiselization the PRR ran their units in strict consists (even classified them that way. They would run four F-7's and classify the whole string as one locomotive (EF-4 was A-B-B-A with about 4500 HP). They did this with all their road units. Two Baldwin centipedes were a BP-2 (A-A with 6000 HP). An Alco PA set was a AP-2 (A-B with 4000 HP or an AP-3 (A-B-A with 6000 HP). In the early 50's the operating department must have realized how flexible diesels can be. They started classifying diesels as single units by their manufacturer, assignment and horsepower.  Those F units became class EF15. The PA's became class AP10. Only the centipedes remained a pair being class BP60 (eventually relegated to BF-50 and BH-50 after the turbos were removed). The more diesels that arrived on the property the more the units were used as needed. By the mid to late 50's it was not uncommon to see F units and Geeps or Alco A units with EMD B units on the same train.

The Pennsylvania standardized everything, but it was such a big road that it needed a variety of different locomotive types for different jobs and plenty of each type. It's one of the reasons I model the PRR.

The short answer is that it is prototypical to model the PRR with a mix of diesels.

Regards,
Frank Musick

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Exit Catskill division
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2012, 11:54:04 AM »
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When I started this topic I planned to publish thoughts and reports of progress made. However, all of a sudden I and my family have decided to sell the house. The layout won't fit in our new home, so within some weeks I'll have to tear it all up. Sad.

Tomorrow and this coming tuesday potential buyers will visit our home and my basement. All rolling stock (plus all the debris that always pile up around my ongoing projects) is removed, maybe for good. 

Now it's time to start thinking about what kind of modelling that'll fit our new life. The effort of building a medium sized layout like this has been very enjoyable but things have progressed very slowly. At the moment I'm a frequent visitor of Byron Henderson's site with those clever and compact shelf layouts for switching. I have also considered building modules just to build some scenery.