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Re: Seaboard Central 2.0
« Reply #2595 on: October 05, 2016, 05:23:54 PM »
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Count the clothespins.  The third tree from the left is hiding behind the fourth tree from this angle.  ;)

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I did count the clothespins. And danged if I still didn't come up with nine. :facepalm:

By the way, They're looking very good on the layout.

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Re: Seaboard Central 2.0
« Reply #2596 on: October 05, 2016, 05:33:56 PM »
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Let's do the Sesame Street counting thing.   :D

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Re: Seaboard Central 2.0
« Reply #2597 on: October 05, 2016, 06:12:51 PM »
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Bryan, FTW.  BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

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Re: Seaboard Central 2.0
« Reply #2598 on: October 05, 2016, 07:20:25 PM »
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@Cajonpassfan,

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Re: Seaboard Central 2.0
« Reply #2599 on: October 05, 2016, 07:21:39 PM »
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Only now I get it that you get it...a bit slow on the uptake.
Nice trees btw, however many there are...
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Re: Seaboard Central 2.0
« Reply #2600 on: October 05, 2016, 08:04:34 PM »
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Only now I get it that you get it...a bit slow on the uptake.
Nice trees btw, however many there are...
Otto K.

Haha!  Too funny.  I was going to say something, but I thought you'd figure it out.   :)

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Re: Seaboard Central 2.0
« Reply #2601 on: October 06, 2016, 01:16:02 PM »
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Let's do the Sesame Street counting thing.   :D


I flunked Sesame Street. (Cookie Monster scares me.) :scared:

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Re: Seaboard Central 2.0
« Reply #2602 on: October 07, 2016, 07:40:21 AM »
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At the risk of being reviled and condemned, I submit the simple addition of a stream to this scene looks natural and also shows how the land was shaped. Not that Dave should do this, just as an illustration.


That's a small trestle letting the creek go under the lower track as that goes under the upper track trestle. The stream mouth, where mud would accumulate, could also provide for a marshy/swampy area with reeds and cattails intruding into the lake. Probably a very Southern scene. 

Seems like everybody never realizes that whatever shape the land beneath them -- flat, hilly, rolling, or steep -- it all has been shaped by water, even tho there may not be any evidence of water on it now. Man's efforts must reach gigantic proportions to equal this. I just think including waterways of all kinds -- full of water or dry -- adds to the realism of a layout scene.
I realize this is a topic nobody cares about but I think it's worthwhile. People get hepped up over the amount of rivets on a model's boiler or how high a PS-1 is, I get interested in what kind of drainage a layout has (or hasn't). I would also point out that any real railroad that ignores potential water flow along its ROW does so at its own peril.

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Re: Seaboard Central 2.0
« Reply #2603 on: October 07, 2016, 10:36:44 AM »
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I always thought that the pond was from sand/gravel removal.  Here in Ohio, we have a lot of old sand/gravel ponds with no stream flowing in or out.  The ponds can also be made by excavating for fill dirt for Interstates, or other roads, including railroad fills. 

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Re: Seaboard Central 2.0
« Reply #2604 on: October 07, 2016, 10:46:23 AM »
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At the risk of being reviled and condemned, I submit the simple addition of a stream to this scene looks natural and also shows how the land was shaped. Not that Dave should do this, just as an illustration.


That's a small trestle letting the creek go under the lower track as that goes under the upper track trestle. The stream mouth, where mud would accumulate, could also provide for a marshy/swampy area with reeds and cattails intruding into the lake. Probably a very Southern scene. 

Seems like everybody never realizes that whatever shape the land beneath them -- flat, hilly, rolling, or steep -- it all has been shaped by water, even tho there may not be any evidence of water on it now. Man's efforts must reach gigantic proportions to equal this. I just think including waterways of all kinds -- full of water or dry -- adds to the realism of a layout scene.
I realize this is a topic nobody cares about but I think it's worthwhile. People get hepped up over the amount of rivets on a model's boiler or how high a PS-1 is, I get interested in what kind of drainage a layout has (or hasn't). I would also point out that any real railroad that ignores potential water flow along its ROW does so at its own peril.

@OldEastRR,

I'm already on it.  I do consider drainage/erosion when I build my topography.  What has happened is that the creek is just hidden under the kudzu.  Here's a post from pre-kudzu days on October 28, 2012, showing how I actually thought about and resculpted the area to include the drainage into the lake.

You can see here how I shifted the drainage ditch on the right side of the track to between the trestle bents where it then drains into the lake:

If you go back to the current picture, you may also notice that I painted that end of the lake to appear as if silt settled from that small tributary.  As for the marshy/swampy area, I ordered some materials this week to begin working on the lake's shoreline.

Thanks,
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Re: Seaboard Central 2.0
« Reply #2605 on: October 07, 2016, 12:21:56 PM »
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@OldEastRR,
As for the marshy/swampy area, I ordered some materials this week to begin working on the lake's shoreline.

You mentioned cat tails, so maybe some more tree/root like things emerging from under the kudzu along the shore? Something like this maybe...


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Re: Seaboard Central 2.0
« Reply #2606 on: October 07, 2016, 02:36:35 PM »
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@jmarley76,

How did you find that picture?!  That's almost exactly what I've been looking for.  The plan all along was to add a few items in, e.g., scrub trees, brush, or telephone poles, to give the kudzu something to cover, adding some interest.  I wondered, though, how to transition from a bed of kudzu to the water.  I'm not that far off.  Thank you!

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Re: Seaboard Central 2.0
« Reply #2607 on: October 07, 2016, 05:04:23 PM »
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Lemosteam, I added 6 oz of glycerin to a gallon of water when I simmered my supertrees.  I thought since most of them would be bare for early spring, that it wouldn't hurt to have them be less brittle.

Dave, I made some experimental cattails using static grass, adding some WS horsehair with the dust from ground up leaves for the catkins.  Tried to get a winter and early spring look.



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Re: Seaboard Central 2.0
« Reply #2608 on: October 07, 2016, 08:21:37 PM »
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Bob, those look awesome!  Nice work.  I don't think that I could pull that detail work off nearly as well as you have.  Kudos!

Coincidentally, my Scenic Express order came in this week.  I bought some grass sheet material, cut some pieces up, and threw them down at the end of the lake as an experiment to see how it looks.  DISCLAIMER: This is not necessarily cut to the shape I want for grasses at the water's edge, nor is it glued down yet.  I just wanted to see how it looked and to get your opinions before I glue anything down permanently.



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Re: Seaboard Central 2.0
« Reply #2609 on: October 07, 2016, 10:19:41 PM »
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Honestly, I think you could do just as well with a bead of glue, some static grass, and the ol' Pubemaster.