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Re: Seaboard Central 2.0
« Reply #1740 on: August 16, 2015, 05:16:46 PM »
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More progress with the construction of the original portion of the enginehouse.  Keep in mind, for the ease of painting, none of the windows or doors are glued in and the addition is not yet glued to the original enginehouse yet.  In case you can't tell from the photos, the original enginehouse is brick with corrugated roofing and the addition is all corrugated siding and roofing.





As soon as I get more "concrete" paint, I can not only go back to work on the highway bridge, but I can paint the foundation of the enginehouse and start working the scenery up to the foundation.  I have ballast repairs to make from where I added the concrete pad to the enginehouse's addition yesterday.

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Re: Seaboard Central 2.0
« Reply #1741 on: August 16, 2015, 05:24:35 PM »
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I'd definitely say that you've captured the feel of the prototype well, nice job Dave
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Re: Seaboard Central 2.0
« Reply #1742 on: August 16, 2015, 05:32:32 PM »
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I'd definitely say that you've captured the feel of the prototype well, nice job Dave

Thanks, Sawyer.  I'd say the worst part is behind me.  Paint, weathering, and tons of detailing to go, but they can be done in much smaller bites of time as compared to the hours invested into this part of the project.

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Re: Seaboard Central 2.0
« Reply #1743 on: August 16, 2015, 08:26:30 PM »
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Looks beautiful (like all of your work) Dave, funny how long small projects like that can take.

One concern, if I can word this properly: How do the separate roofs meet up where the addition butts up to the original structure? If the original roof curves below the new roof and into the wall, there would be a potential water damage situation during rain. If that makes any sense? Then again I do not know what the proto looks like but it jumped out at me.

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Re: Seaboard Central 2.0
« Reply #1744 on: August 16, 2015, 08:33:05 PM »
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Oh man, more absolutely awesome progress.

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Re: Seaboard Central 2.0
« Reply #1745 on: August 16, 2015, 08:41:52 PM »
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Looks beautiful (like all of your work) Dave, funny how long small projects like that can take.

One concern, if I can word this properly: How do the separate roofs meet up where the addition butts up to the original structure? If the original roof curves below the new roof and into the wall, there would be a potential water damage situation during rain. If that makes any sense? Then again I do not know what the proto looks like but it jumped out at me.

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I thought about that roof back when I built the cardboard stand-in a while back; the prototype's roof must leak like a sieve!  See?

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Re: Seaboard Central 2.0
« Reply #1746 on: August 16, 2015, 08:43:22 PM »
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Oh man, more absolutely awesome progress.

Thanks,  Ed!

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Re: Seaboard Central 2.0
« Reply #1747 on: August 16, 2015, 10:17:26 PM »
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Aha! I figured there was a reason, probably missed the discussion a while back  :D

I didn't mean to belittle your work by any stretch, as it far beyond my own. Looking forward to seeing this develop, it has plenty of character and will make a nice show piece.

And someone should have some words with the architect, or whoever thought  that design was a good idea!

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« Reply #1748 on: August 17, 2015, 02:22:06 PM »
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Wow!!!. I have been following the construction of this engine house. It will turn into a very interesting, well built feature on your layout.

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Re: Seaboard Central 2.0
« Reply #1749 on: August 18, 2015, 09:34:39 AM »
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DFF - Did you get my post on paint for bridge girders?
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Re: Seaboard Central 2.0
« Reply #1750 on: August 18, 2015, 12:02:45 PM »
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DFF - Did you get my post on paint for bridge girders?

I sure did; it was in the Weekend Update 8/9/15 thread.  Thanks for the suggestion!  I haven't decided how I'm going to paint the girders.  The Plastruct pieces I used are designed to represent steel I-beams.  But, most, if not all, of the prototype bridges seem to have concrete girders.  I'm pondering a method to alter the look of the Plastruct I-beams to make them look more like concrete cross-sections.  But, I might just be lazy and paint them silver.   :P

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Re: Seaboard Central 2.0
« Reply #1751 on: August 18, 2015, 12:05:58 PM »
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Aha! I figured there was a reason, probably missed the discussion a while back  :D

I didn't mean to belittle your work by any stretch, as it far beyond my own. Looking forward to seeing this develop, it has plenty of character and will make a nice show piece.

And someone should have some words with the architect, or whoever thought  that design was a good idea!
Wow!!!. I have been following the construction of this engine house. It will turn into a very interesting, well built feature on your layout.

Thanks, guys!  I really appreciate it.  Oh, and Lucas, I never thought you were belittling my work.  The slogan around The Railwire is "Better modeling by peer pressure."  I always welcome constructive criticism.  Often, that has led me to make improvements in my work.

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Re: Seaboard Central 2.0
« Reply #1752 on: August 19, 2015, 07:39:50 AM »
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The slogan around The Railwire is "Better modeling by peer pressure."
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Ah-ha! Then I can blame all YOU guys for my disastrous modeling results. You haven't been applying enough pressure.  :D

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Re: Seaboard Central 2.0
« Reply #1753 on: August 19, 2015, 11:55:43 AM »
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The engine house looks amazingly good.  Now.  Let's talk about that bridge some more.

You've got it way too chunky.  I was down in North Carolina this past week, and about drove Rhodana half crazy talking about concrete railings.  Now, I didn't go so far as to get out of the car with a tape measure, but I did get a picture with a car in it...



Compare to your model:


The railing only comes up to about the door handle of a regular car, and the vertical stanchions are never more than 8' apart.  We saw some that might have been as narrowly spaced as 6, or even 5', but never more than 8'  The verticals don't appear to be more than 8" square, maybe 10" on the outside.  The gap between the top of the curb and the bottom of the rail is about 16", and the rail itself looks to be about 4" x 8".

This bridge is a standard design from the early stages of NC state and interstate highways, probably dating to the early to mid 1950s.  They are everywhere from Asheville to Aberdeen, from Southern Pines to Roanoke Rapids. (The example shown here is in Boone, crossing the Watauga River)  You have to get this right.

My suggestion is to pull it up, sell it to an HO modeler, and lay out a scale drawing based on the rough dimensions I've eyeballed.  See how close you can get before you get too far down the path of least resistance.

Either that or send it to Vollmer so he can put it next to his GINORMOUS Caboose Industries switch throws...  :D

Sorry I couldn't get more accurate information, but I'll be back down there in a couple weeks... I'll take a tape measure if you like.

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Re: Seaboard Central 2.0
« Reply #1754 on: August 19, 2015, 01:59:56 PM »
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@wm3798,

I'm not sure I agree about your statement that my bridge railings are too "chunky."  Too long?  Yes.  Too chunky?  I'm not so sure.  I will admit that I did not have scale drawings or even measurements from which to work, but mostly I was limited to the styrene strip sizes that were available at the LHS.  I'm not looking forward to spending another $20.00 to $30.00 on more strip styrene, though.

That said, however, if someone were to get me some measurements of a prototype bridge, I might consider making another attempt at it, because there's an even bigger flaw that has been nagging at me since I built it: not only are the railing sections too long, but I failed to break the sections over the bridge's individual spans.  In other words, the concrete railings should not bridge the expansions joints between the bridge sections.   :facepalm:

So, get me some measurements.  And, while you're at it, finish up that drawing on the Aberdeen station you started over a year ago.   ;)

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