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Re: N Scale Convention
« Reply #75 on: June 27, 2011, 09:23:52 PM »
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The guy that built it - Mark Bandy - is an architect, and he tends to be pretty accurate with his models .. but remember, this is also a corner module that needs to meet standards .. maybe Martin will chime in here ..

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Re: N Scale Convention
« Reply #76 on: June 27, 2011, 09:32:09 PM »
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straying off topic here...  but the big thing i always liked about that module was the hotel referenece and it's monument...   that hotel is entirely scratch built and damn near spot on down to the cobblestones...  if i recall correctly, at one point, that could have been used as an orange line spur off the front as well.

you are correct, there was some design sacrifices I am sure, but It is a crowd pleaser for sure... and is always one of 3 or 4 modules camera crew's flock too when we get coverage @ the B&O for the Festival of Trains.

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p.s. at one point, we were tossing the idea of the Old Main as a 1T theme...  i thought that would be a good one.

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Re: N Scale Convention
« Reply #77 on: June 27, 2011, 09:47:37 PM »
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p.s. at one point, we were tossing the idea of the Old Main as a 1T theme...  i thought that would be a good one.

It's unfortunate that we couldn't pull that off .. I really think that would be thing that revitalizes 1T

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Re: N Scale Convention
« Reply #78 on: June 27, 2011, 11:15:47 PM »
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Can't comment on what artistic license Mark employed on his Thomas module. As John commented, he goes for extreme accuracy on his models. His Mount Royal Station module and his Ellicott City Station models were done by photographing the prototype extensively. The photos were scanned to his computer where he scaled them then over-drew the photos mortar joint by mortar joint. After the drawings were complete, the walls were cut out on his laser. Results are that the model walls match stone for stone to the real thing. Same attention to details on trim. Of course scale does force constraints.

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Re: N Scale Convention
« Reply #79 on: June 27, 2011, 11:18:02 PM »
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. The photos were scanned to his computer where he scaled them then over-drew the photos mortar joint by mortar joint. After the drawings were complete, the walls were cut out on his laser. Results are that the model walls match stone for stone to the real thing.

yeah, that AMAZED me when he actually matched the mortar using autocad...  talk about value selling the prototype in a model!

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Re: N Scale Convention
« Reply #80 on: June 28, 2011, 05:00:24 AM »
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Personally, I liked the pictures from the show .. I am especially fond of this one .. and never get tired of seeing it  ... It really helps me Mellow out .. :)

http://i850.photobucket.com/albums/ab66/cec209/HersheyNScale2011093.jpg

Personally, I like the scene. Structure fires are always intresting on modules and layouts, because you don't see well done ones very often.

But the former Fire fighter in me sees this and pulls my hair out, it isn't even close to how things would really be.
A handfull of things that are wrong, too many Big sticks, no fire department, or surrounding communitys have that many avaible to them, they are too close to the building, the hap hazard way they are parked, their is a lot, and I could go on and on about it.

I am actually thinking about adding a structure fire to my layout one of these days, and having everything set up the "Ideal" way.

wow, I am "that guy" now huh? LOL
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Re: N Scale Convention
« Reply #81 on: June 28, 2011, 05:11:53 AM »
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Okay, I had to check out the Atlas comments.. Yep, my head hurts..  ;D ;D

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I am actually thinking about adding a structure fire to my layout one of these days, and having everything set up the "Ideal" way.

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Re: N Scale Convention
« Reply #82 on: June 28, 2011, 06:47:02 AM »
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I am actually thinking about adding a structure fire to my layout one of these days, and having everything set up the "Ideal" way.

Hi Mike,

Rather than depicting a scene of violence and destruction, how about a creating an area used for fire training? I had always dreamed about creating a layout based on the Selkirk Branch, and there's just a fire training facility just outside Guilderland, NY that would be perfect (and right next to the CSX ROW - Google Maps) - a three-story concrete and brick structure set ablaze every so often to keep the crews sharp. :)

Cheers!
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Re: N Scale Convention
« Reply #83 on: June 28, 2011, 08:39:09 AM »
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The Maryland Fire & Rescue Institute's main training center is spitting distance from the CSX mainline, also home to MARC trains, in College Park MD.
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Re: N Scale Convention
« Reply #84 on: June 28, 2011, 09:31:41 AM »
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Hi Mike,

Rather than depicting a scene of violence and destruction, how about a creating an area used for fire training? I had always dreamed about creating a layout based on the Selkirk Branch, and there's just a fire training facility just outside Guilderland, NY that would be perfect (and right next to the CSX ROW - Google Maps) - a three-story concrete and brick structure set ablaze every so often to keep the crews sharp. :)

Cheers!
Marc

The Maryland Fire & Rescue Institute's main training center is spitting distance from the CSX mainline, also home to MARC trains, in College Park MD.

Didn't think about that! I like it! Consitering that the layout I am kinda working on right now is proto-lanced, their isn't any training grounds near the therotic line I am working. Although, I was thinking about doing a N trak Module, that might be a great scene. With a training ground I could do a search and rescue training, Haz-mat trainer..... I could really run with a N trak module and all that flat space! Old tank cars, old coaches, aircraft trainers, "Tower of doom," old Cars for extraction, etc etc etc, I could go on forever!!

On a side note, I am going to at least have a fire station on my current layout, I got a decent looking building, that could benifit from some weathering, and I got 3 fire trucks, one of the athearns rural pumper, a 3000 gal tanker I built a while ago, and a old Micro Machines areal I am working on "un toying." Although all are outside of my era, they will work untill I can build some era correct trucks, than those can go on the potential N Trak module.
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Re: N Scale Convention
« Reply #85 on: June 28, 2011, 09:32:16 AM »
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And Baltimore City's training site is off of CSX on the east side on Pulaski Highway.

I like the idea of the OML for a set of ONe trak modules...  It's really a natural, since you split off there at St. Denis, then come back in at Point of Rocks... There's some neat vignettes along the way, too, such as the underpass at I70, and the tunnel under East New Market.

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Re: N Scale Convention
« Reply #86 on: June 28, 2011, 09:52:35 AM »
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And Baltimore City's training site is off of CSX on the east side on Pulaski Highway.

I like the idea of the OML for a set of ONe trak modules...  It's really a natural, since you split off there at St. Denis, then come back in at Point of Rocks... There's some neat vignettes along the way, too, such as the underpass at I70, and the tunnel under East New Market.

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Don't forget Ilchester with its tunnel and bridge combo.  And, if you want to do it up nicely, an OML module could show sections of the former right-of-way and even some of the original stone stringers that are still in place in a few spots.

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Re: N Scale Convention
« Reply #87 on: June 28, 2011, 10:09:12 AM »
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The DC fire academy is located near the old B&O branch that went to St Elizabeth hospital.  Now out of service but soon to see trolley service.

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Re: N Scale Convention
« Reply #88 on: June 28, 2011, 10:37:32 AM »
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Don't forget Ilchester with its tunnel and bridge combo.  And, if you want to do it up nicely, an OML module could show sections of the former right-of-way and even some of the original stone stringers that are still in place in a few spots.
I believe that someone produces an accurate Ilchester bridge too.

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Re: N Scale Convention
« Reply #89 on: June 28, 2011, 11:18:40 AM »
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Personally, I like the scene. Structure fires are always intresting on modules and layouts, because you don't see well done ones very often.

But the former Fire fighter in me sees this and pulls my hair out, it isn't even close to how things would really be.
A handfull of things that are wrong, too many Big sticks, no fire department, or surrounding communitys have that many avaible to them, they are too close to the building, the hap hazard way they are parked, their is a lot, and I could go on and on about it.

I am actually thinking about adding a structure fire to my layout one of these days, and having everything set up the "Ideal" way.

wow, I am "that guy" now huh? LOL

I was the original that guy I couldn't believe my off hand comment got that much of a reaction over at Atlas. I posted there because I saw it there first (again, I seem to avoid pink sticky threads).

Anyway, I just don't see the humor or whimsy in something that dangerous. I have had many fire calls. Its not a pleasant experience to be on the phone with someone trapped in a fire. Waiting for the first units to get on scene makes me sick to my stomach.

The module is all wrong. And not a little wrong. Anyone with any sense whatsoever would notice the wall of the fully involved structure would colapse on the fire trucks. Seriously, didn't he look at ANY prototype pictures?

As I said before. Micro Machines suck just because there are some modelers, and I use the term loosly, who think they are accurate enough to use. Ugh!

What really made my loose my sh*t was seeing the water tender parked NEXT to the fire boat. Is this guy daft?

People die in these thinks. Its not cool. Its not whimsical. Its not thoughtfull or cute. Treat it with some damn respect.

Mike, its not finished, but I think it looks OK:




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