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Shelf Layout
« on: November 22, 2010, 10:44:21 PM »
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I've been messing around with trying to sketch out a new shelf layout design.

I had a previous layout that was 2x7', built on two pieces of foam sandwiched together.
This worked out reasonably well, but a solid foam base means you can't really finish up the edges of it, and its size was actually just a tad too long to fit in the bed of my dad's pickup truck, so moving it around was a bit awkward even though it was really light. And you couldn't just cut it into two sections, as the track plan didn't really provide any straight lines where there were no switches, and you wouldn't be able to fasten the two halfs back together again.

The track plan was based on a MR article from 1986 entitled "Railroading for City Lovers". Here's a photo of what it ended up looking like, it never really got completely done:



It crammed a fair bit of track into a small space but had a basic weakness in that really short switching tails basically meant you couldn't really move more than one car at a time out of the yard tracks, and could only bring two cars up to the runaround. The design, based on a junction with single track branch meeting a double track main in a tight urban space was attractive, but switching was little solving one of those little sliding puzzles where you have to move the empty spot around.

Anyway, after a move into an apartment with zero extra space for a few years, and then I got a job back in the city I grew up in, although I didn't know how permanent it would be so for the last few months I've actually been staying at my parent's place again. Never really saw that one coming... :)

So anyway, I recently started thinking about designing and building a new layout for when I get moved out on my own again.
Major design points are:
-scale: HO. Yes, you could get more in and be less cramped in N scale, but HO is my preferred scale and I have a lot of existing equipment and I'm not interested in starting fresh in a smaller scale
-portability: a layout composed of a few smaller sections that can be easily moved or transported. I've moved around a fair bit over the last 10 years and the future is still unclear
-operation: shelf layout means no continuous running option. I would want to be able to run things in a realistic, logical fashion. That means I want to include two things:
1) an interchange track that connects all the on layout industries to the rest of the world. Basically all the layout traffic would go through the interchange.
2) a spur designated as the engine track. Just a simple engine parking track like this:


One thing that I'd like to do is re-use this factory built from DPM modular parts from the old layout.



I did some sketching and drawing over the last couple days, having a hard time coming up with an arrangement I even liked, much less tried to actually fit into a given space. Today I came up with this, which is the first design that I kind of like. I wanted the interchange track to be as long as possible, and still be able to be switched from one end, and the switching tails and runaround should ideally be able to handle about 3 cars. This design is intended as 3 equally sized 1.5x3' sections bolting together into a 9' long unit.


Please give me your opinion, what do you think will work/not work, should be improved, etc? I'm not sure about the "Industry A" in the top middle. That was kind of put in as an afterthought to fill in the empty space in the back. It would require some interesting scratchbuilt track arrangement to work. Which could turn out to be either a bonus or a pain.

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Re: Shelf Layout
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2010, 11:20:18 PM »
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I did some sketching and drawing over the last couple days, having a hard time coming up with an arrangement I even liked, much less tried to actually fit into a given space. Today I came up with this, which is the first design that I kind of like. I wanted the interchange track to be as long as possible, and still be able to be switched from one end, and the switching tails and runaround should ideally be able to handle about 3 cars. This design is intended as 3 equally sized 1.5x3' sections bolting together into a 9' long unit.


Please give me your opinion, what do you think will work/not work, should be improved, etc? I'm not sure about the "Industry A" in the top middle. That was kind of put in as an afterthought to fill in the empty space in the back. It would require some interesting scratchbuilt track arrangement to work. Which could turn out to be either a bonus or a pain.

A few brief thoughts:

 - Seems you can probably eliminate a pair of turnouts and an unnecessary track by combining the track above the "Runaround" label with the track immediately above it.   As drawn, you in effect have two runarounds which is redundant.
 - Which side is the front where the operator will stand/access?   I would consider making the top the front, since you have a direct reach to the lead and the interchange tracks. In that case, I would build the "Factory" as a flat against the backdrop.  You could further simplify by eliminating Industry A (it looks like those two turnouts plus a (handbuilt?) crossing would be very close together).
 - You might want to consider going with 2 sections instead of 3, as the latter would require a lot more track joints.
 - It's hard to tell from the sketch, but you may have some S-curves.   I would recommend re-drawing with some kind of layout planning software.  Personally, I think this would look better with #6 turnouts instead of shorter ones, but that's just my own preference.  :)

HTH,
Ed
« Last Edit: November 22, 2010, 11:26:31 PM by ednadolski »

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Re: Shelf Layout
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2010, 01:29:05 AM »
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Chris,
You can definitely fix up the front of foam. On the kidney, I just painted it all flat black. I used a lot of paint thought and really just slopped it into all the nooks and crannies. It worked fine.

However, there are other materials out there that should also do nicely. I just got some vinyl stripping from Home Depot that's usually used as molding in semi-industrial or commercial settings.

It came in black, and was like $1 for 3' of it. It's easy to cut, so you can easily match it with your fascia profile, and light enough that you can probably just attach it with some Liquid Nails.

I also agree with Ed about the redundant track. I'd remove it and use the extra space to get rid of the diamond.

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Re: Shelf Layout
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2010, 06:26:51 AM »
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Chris, my last layout was 4" of foam, exactly like yours. I attached a layer of Foamcore with Liquid Nails for Foam. You can get Foamcore in a variety of colors, or cover it with a layer of vinyl shelf lining material, as I did, for a more durable finish.



Also:

Seems you can probably eliminate a pair of turnouts and an unnecessary track by combining the track above the "Runaround" label with the track immediately above it.   As drawn, you in effect have two runarounds which is redundant.

Agreed.
« Last Edit: November 23, 2010, 06:30:08 AM by David K. Smith »

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Re: Shelf Layout
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2010, 10:11:38 PM »
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David K. Smith- do you have photos of your work in process of FoamCore and how you covered it? Looks very nice.

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Re: Shelf Layout
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2010, 10:26:38 PM »
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David K. Smith- do you have photos of your work in process of FoamCore and how you covered it? Looks very nice.

mike

Wish I did! But I didn't do anything special. I just glued the Foamcore to the raw edges of the foam insulation with Liquid Nails for foam, and then covered the Foamcore with woodgrain vinyl shelf liner.
« Last Edit: December 05, 2010, 10:28:40 PM by David K. Smith »