Pressure Differential Covered Hopper history

[sirenwerks]

I'm hoping that the MTL car will have brakegear that can be used on the walthers' cars...

Dang, I hadn't thought of that. Good call!

The ADM cars happened to show up in blocks hauling wheat on the CGW so I jumped on the decal an picked up a half dozen cars.

Yes, precisely why I want some of those! Cargill was found on the Milwaukee and, IIRC, Dreyfus on the CB&Q.

[bbussey]

You also may be able to extract the sides from the Walthers and MTL models and then mount the Walthers sides to the MTL model, depending upon how accurate the dimensions are on the Walthers car.  I would probably cast the flat sides so a fleet could be built if desired.  So you guys might be able to build the exact models you want with a lot less effort than it would take to bring the Walthers model up to current standards.

[wcfn100]

You also may be able to extract the sides from the Walthers and MTL models and then mount the Walthers sides to the MTL model, depending upon how accurate the dimensions are on the Walthers car.  I would probably cast the flat sides so a fleet could be built if desired.  So you guys might be able to build the exact models you want with a lot less effort than it would take to bring the Walthers model up to current standards.

The Walthers model also has high mounted brakewheels where the MTL will have low mounted.

The Walthers model is just good enough to add any details that are readily available to upgrade them to a 'stand-in' model.  Etched walkways and hopper gates you can get now, if the MTL brakegear works, then I can live with that until somebody does these cars.


Jason

[sirenwerks]

I've actually thought about butchering 2 cars to be able to cast more. They're just getting so darn hard to find now, and I barely have enough for a small fleet. Ah, decisions decisions....

There's the possibility Atlas may sneak this one out. They do make it in O scale.

[daniel_leavitt2000]

"Atlas" and "New N scale tooling" seem to be far seperated as of late.

[sirenwerks]

"Atlas" and "New N scale tooling" seem to be far seperated as of late.

It's about to release a new tooling any day now, if you consider the long anticipated coil car. .Well over a year, if you go by announcement date; but a boy can dream.

Maybe Atlas recognizes its tardiness and its elves are busy 24/7 readying a 4427 right now, as I type. Huh?! What?! Where am I? Oh, must have dozed off...

[Robbman]

I really think we need to start looking at covered hoppers that ARE NOT from ACF. Trinity, Thrall, North American... where is the love?

You realize that the PD cars you want were built by North American, Thrall and Trinity... right?

[Denver Road Doug]

They're just getting so darn hard to find now, and I barely have enough for a small fleet.

Have you been checking eBay?   All of a sudden they are pretty plentiful and much cheaper. (I have a search alert set to e-mail me)    Not sure if it is the rumor of Exactrail or Atlas doing them, or insider information, or what, but the Cargill/TLDX car was bringing $15-20 less than a year ago pretty consistantly.   I saw one sell for $4.99 the within the past month. (granted there was shipping on top of that but it wasn't the crazy $10+ variety)

BTW, who makes etched walkways and hopper gates for the Walthers cars?

[cv_acr]

You realize that the PD cars you want were built by North American, Thrall and Trinity... right?

I'm pretty sure that was probably his point...

Atlas has the ACF PressureAid (and tons of other ACF centreflow versions), he'd like models of the NA/Thral/Trinity style of pressure hopper. The Walthers car hasn't been produced in years.

[Mark5]

Have you been checking eBay?   All of a sudden they are pretty plentiful and much cheaper.

BTW, who makes etched walkways and hopper gates for the Walthers cars?

I see one in a Wally commemorative scheme at the moment, also a few "bundled" with a bunch of other junk (of course I might need to tweak my search criteria)

I think JNJ makes (made) the walkways:

http://users.dwx.com/~jnjtrains/products.htm#Details

Mark

[daniel_leavitt2000]

You realize that the PD cars you want were built by North American, Thrall and Trinity... right?

You'll notice there is a period between ACF and and Trinity. I'm getting a bit tired of seeing ACF cars standing in for everything else. I really wish we would see some Trinity 2 and 4 bay hoppers, Plastics hoppers and the PD5000.

I still find it strange there are 4 makers of ACF 2 bay hoppers and no one does the Trinity version.

[Robbman]

You'll notice there is a period between ACF and and Trinity. I'm getting a bit tired of seeing ACF cars standing in for everything else. I really wish we would see some Trinity 2 and 4 bay hoppers, Plastics hoppers and the PD5000.

I still find it strange there are 4 makers of ACF 2 bay hoppers and no one does the Trinity version.

Ah... my bad.

[sirenwerks]

I have good news and bad...

The good news is RYM responded to my query with graphics files of the car drawings and the etching frets.

The bad news is, the version of QuickCAD (v I have can't handle 3D, and some of the drawing's elements are being turned askew when I finally get the file open. Anyone have a CAD program that can handle the file properly?

[Robbman]

I still find it strange there are 4 makers of ACF 2 bay hoppers and no one does the Trinity version.

Someone told me two years ago they were doing the Trinity 3281... so I never pursued it... so there's hope for that one

[GaryHinshaw]

Someone told me two years ago they were doing the Trinity 3281... so I never pursued it... so there's hope for that one

Does "they" refer to "Someone" or RYM?  (or both?)    Interesting tidbit in any case.