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OK, so Ed's industry thread got me thinking...



This coal mine just doesn't generate any real interest for me...  It's on a spur right off the main with no switch lead.  It can't generate a whole trainload of coal cars, and frankly, mines like this were not usually right on the Middle Division.  They were mainly on branches out of Cresson and off the Bald Eagle branch, but along the Middle Division they came in via the H&BTM and EBT railroads.

After I finish the Enola yard, I plan to re-work the main layout with Lewisport becoming LewisTOWN...  So, what can I put where the coal mine is?

I thought about a lumber yard or even a brick yard.  The space is cramped, but the vertical mountain will be trimmed down quite a bit and populated with SuperTrees.

I checked the CTC1000 for the Pennsy on Jerry's site and nothing jumped out at me.  This would be for an industry somewhere near or west of Lewistown.  I don't think Standard Steel will fit in the space!

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Re: PRR/CR Middle Division Industry - What to Replace my Coal Mine With?
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2009, 10:57:55 AM »
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Dave,
instead of alumber yard, why not an actual mill?  Thast close to the forrest raw materials are obvious, and if you did it open air pole-barn style there would be all sorts of neat superdetailing and animation opportunities.
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Re: PRR/CR Middle Division Industry - What to Replace my Coal Mine With?
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2009, 11:14:14 AM »
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Wasn't there actually a somewhat substantial factory in Lewistown? I think parts of it are still there.
http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=40.58839510795371~-77.58266240358353&lvl=17&sty=h

Damn, I really wish I remember what that was now.

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Re: PRR/CR Middle Division Industry - What to Replace my Coal Mine With?
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2009, 11:22:40 AM »
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Ed, you're thinking of American Viscose Co.  My Juniata Machine Tool Co will become that.  I need an additional industry.

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Re: PRR/CR Middle Division Industry - What to Replace my Coal Mine With?
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2009, 12:59:18 PM »
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 Here's a heavy duty plastic pipe making facility located at Cleversburg, PA on the old Reading which was built during the Conra

http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=qpb8k88jd3tz&scene=42173753&lvl=1&sty=b

Covered hoppers in, flatcat loads out, with an occasional box for supplies.
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Re: PRR/CR Middle Division Industry - What to Replace my Coal Mine With?
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2009, 01:09:36 PM »
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How about a cement distributor?

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Re: PRR/CR Middle Division Industry - What to Replace my Coal Mine With?
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2009, 01:25:28 PM »
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Dave, I would put a farm machinery load out.. As you know or may not know New holland once had their load out in Lewistown.. The second trick yard job would go over to town and get the cars from the days loadings.. It was in the old PRR freight station over in town.. When the station became unsafe they built a new steel builing right along the main line near the old Lewis tower.. The axe factory (Mann Edge Tool) was also over in town.. They actually had a switch right in the street trackage.. :o There was also a scrap dealer there too.. There was a feed mill, coal company, oil plant, foundry and about fifteen others that served Lewistown.. Let me know I can come up with more, as you know I grew up here and OH yes worked the line and road it since I was five years old..

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Re: PRR/CR Middle Division Industry - What to Replace my Coal Mine With?
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2009, 03:06:24 PM »
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Todd,

Thanks for the info!  I think something in the metals area would be great...  Either the scrap dealer or foundry, depending on space.  I have lots of gons in both eras I'd like to put to work!  Do you know the business names?

For the farm equipment load-out, I'm not 100% there, but I do have this feedmill/farm store kitbash:



That red tractor is a John Deere repainted to look like an old New Holland!

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« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2009, 03:14:36 PM »
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look no further than the CT1000:

http://kc.pennsyrr.com/docs/downloads/ct1000e_1945.pdf

page 160 should get you started.  i would go for some small metal fabrication mill.  gons, flats, and boxcars.  Huntingon had J.C. Blair
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Re: PRR/CR Middle Division Industry - What to Replace my Coal Mine With?
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2009, 03:15:32 PM »
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Steve,

See first post (although I mistakenly called it "CTC1000").  But I agree, something with scrap metal.  Visually interesting and an excuse for more gons!!!

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« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2009, 03:39:39 PM »
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Steve,

See first post (although I mistakenly called it "CTC1000").  But I agree, something with scrap metal.  Visually interesting and an excuse for more gons!!!

sorry, missed the CT1000 comment at the bottom.

here's a list of current fabrication companies in PA.

http://www.manta.com/mb_43_E5_39/fabrication/pennsylvania

might find something in there.  think sheet metal, cutlery, tools, or appliances.  

Bendix is an era right name...
http://www.bendixradiofoundation.com/hist_bendix.htm
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Re: PRR/CR Middle Division Industry - What to Replace my Coal Mine With?
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2009, 04:03:39 PM »
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Steve,

That's some awesome info!  Thanks!

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« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2009, 04:35:43 PM »
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Steve,

That's some awesome info!  Thanks!

here's your newest lineside industry:

http://www.manta.com/coms2/dnbcompany_g3nx31
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« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2009, 04:37:14 PM »
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and in keeping with the PA feeling, just take out the mine, leave everything else there, put up a metal building and bam.  wait, you need it right for the PRR...

pick a freakin era already.
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Re: PRR/CR Middle Division Industry - What to Replace my Coal Mine With?
« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2009, 04:53:56 PM »
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and in keeping with the PA feeling, just take out the mine, leave everything else there, put up a metal building and bam.  wait, you need it right for the PRR...

pick a freakin era already.

Actually, I think Dave ought to think in terms of two potential industries to replace the coal mine. I think the dual-era thing is a great concept, and this is a good opportunity to exercise the concept with a swappable industry. Perhaps some kind of metal fabrication factory for the PRR era (nice big brick building with loading dock and traveling crane), and then a scrap dealer for the CR era (quonset hut main building, a crawler-type crane for loading, and the foundation of the original brick building being used as bins for the scrap)...
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