Leased Virginian hoppers?

[jargonlet]

Does anyone know if the Virginian leased any of the Pennsylvanias H21a hoppers? Bowser has done a run of these recently and it looks like they just changed the road name. Wondering if these were leased to the Virginan or if they are just labeled Viriginian. My understanding is that The Virginian only had 50 ton 2 bay and a small fleet of 3 bay hoppers and their coal gondola fleet. I have not seen a roster though.

[Missaberoad]

I wasn't able to find exact numbers but I did find a couple references that confirm they were leased to VGN (and N&W)

From the Atlas O site.

During the 1940s and early 1950s, these hoppers were leased to both the Norfolk & Western and Virginian railroads.

http://www.atlaso.com/oprrhopper1.htm

From the Broadway limited rail sim site.

In 1951, to alleviate a shortage of Hopper cars, the Virginian Railway leased a grouping of the Pennsylvania Railroad's H21as and pressed them into Coal service.

http://www.bllw.net/KL-H21a.html

[Mark5]

I don't believe that either of the Bowser schemes are prototypical. They more likely stayed in PRR paint for the lease term (relatively brief in both cases)

I have yet to see any photos of repainted H21s for either road (N&W would have drafted a paint diagram). N&W surely would not have painted them red ...

https://pairlist6.pair.net/pipermail/nw-mailing-list/Week-of-Mon-20121029/017975.html

Mark

[Mark5]

FWIW, I am now in possession of a copy of a photo of one of the N&W leased H21a hoppers - it is a B&W photo and it appears to be in the usual N&W black.

The info I have suggests that the lease (supposedly for 1500 H21a hoppers) was very short term (1951 to summer 1952)