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Re: So the IM Frame monster hit me
« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2017, 06:35:42 PM »
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...Were these rots or something like cold metal pours in the molding process , anybody know ?

I think it was all Dee's fault... :trollface:


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Re: So the IM Frame monster hit me
« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2017, 10:54:23 PM »
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I'm thinking it would be better if we didn't know how well IM customer service was because nobody needed to request replacements . Were these rots or something like cold metal pours in the molding process , anybody know ?

This problem existed for decades and it is documented well in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zinc_rot . The factory probably used inferior quality materials in a batch of frames (which doesn't seem surprising).
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Re: So the IM Frame monster hit me
« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2017, 11:25:49 PM »
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This problem existed for decades and it is documented well in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zinc_rot . The factory probably used inferior quality materials in a batch of frames (which doesn't seem surprising).

Zermak or whatever was the decades old stuff that corroded into a white powder , what are the frames of today ?


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Re: So the IM Frame monster hit me
« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2017, 12:17:34 AM »
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Zermak or whatever was the decades old stuff that corroded into a white powder , what are the frames of today ?

Pretty much the same stuff - some sort of zinc-based alloy.  That is why they are fairly lightweight as compared to the old models with plastic frames and lead weights inside. Kato GP38-2 was one of the last locos which used lead-based alloy for its frame.  If you hold it in your hand and compare it to an Atlas GP38, you can feel the difference in weight.
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Re: So the IM Frame monster hit me
« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2017, 07:55:40 AM »
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Intermountain has always been very, very good about replacing parts. Even when it is the customer's fault. Two examples.

I got out some F3's to run and noticed the shells were splitting up the nose and rear. Pried them off the chassis to see it nearly crumble in my hand. Pulled out all the rest and saw this in two other engines. Sent Intermountain an email and had three new chassis in less than a week and an apology.

This next one is amazing. I got an early first run AC-12, pulled the tender shell and saw an eight pin connector for a decoder. Great, I thought, easy conversion to DCC. The Tsunami would overheat with the tender shell on so I finally solved that. The remaining problem was that the sound volume was very low, so I thought I would remove the daughter board and run straight to the engine. All the factory wiring was black so i asked for info on which wire went where, they sent me that with a comment that no one had ever asked that before. Bottom line was I finally gave up because I was unable to improve the sound. Cut all the wires which left the engine in two parts, loco and tender. Put it back in the box and assumed it was only good for parts, it sat there for over a year.

Finally I contacted Intermountain and told them what I had done (in more detail than I wrote here), I asked if I could send it in and would they fix it for me, told them I would be willing to pay because it was completely my fault. They told me a couple weeks later that the engine was a basket case and not worth repairing. A week later I got a box in the mail from Intermountain, in it was a brand new AC-12. The invoice said "PAID, NO CHARGE". They sent me a new engine free to replace the one I had destroyed. You can't beat that customer service.

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Re: So the IM Frame monster hit me
« Reply #20 on: March 06, 2017, 11:05:34 AM »
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I'll add another to their customer service. Every time I've called them with issues they've been awesome about them. I purchased 7 FP7's and almost all of them had problems with the grills on the side warping. They told me how to fix them, but also said that if I sent them in they'd be happy to do it all for me. I also expressed concern about the front couplers breaking off due to the mounts being so shallow/screws so short and requested a lot of mounting parts. I think I paid $16 for everything, but they had to hunt the pieces down, and I asked for a ton of extra pieces so I'd have parts for later. I am definitely happy with the customer service I received. If I were you I'd surely give them a call.