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Heavyweight Coaches - Single Window
« on: January 30, 2016, 07:17:13 PM »
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I know many N scalers are clamoring for a "single window" (as opposed to "paired") heavyweight coach - but is there a typical one?

This is what I consider an N&W version (PG Class):

https://imagebase.lib.vt.edu/imagebase/norfolksouthern/full/NS2651.jpeg

https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/detail.php?ID=90380

Please post pix of examples that you are aware of -  I'm curious as to how much variation there is in the prototypes.

Thanks!

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Re: Heavyweight Coaches - Single Window
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2016, 07:29:03 PM »
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Here's a NYC HW coach - the proto for the Atlas/Branchline HO model?

http://canadasouthern.com/caso/images/nyc-1171.jpg


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Re: Heavyweight Coaches - Single Window
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2016, 07:45:05 PM »
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CB&Q PB20 and PB21 (years ago, folks I was conversing with about this were quite convinced MT was modeling a CB&Q prototype, but I never saw Joe post anything one way or the other).  To my eye, looks like a shorter window than the N&W).
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/cbq6148.jpg
http://donsdepot.donrossgroup.net/dr0107/q6170.jpg

L&N (several series in the first 30 years of the 20th century)
http://rr-fallenflags.org/acfx/ln-ch1810asw.jpg
http://rayspics.railfan.net/ln2502Pas.jpg  (note the non-symetrical windows)

Erie
http://rr-fallenflags.org/el/pax/erie-co1102bbd.jpg (note the rebuilt door)
http://rr-fallenflags.org/el/pax/erie-co2278abd.jpg

Found all the photos at http://passcarphotos.info/  (Jerry Laboda's Passenger Car Photo Index)

From earlier research, I recall that the biggest difference I noticed other than window height was number of windows varying from 18 to 22 among various roads, and that some were quite symmetrical, and others not (divided coaches with an offset window, or cars with lounges or large restrooms at one end, that sort of thing).

I would most like to have the Erie or L&N prototype, but I would probably be happy with any that are similar.  Comparing to the N&W originally posted, the windows of all of these look shorter.  The wide area above the windows (strictly speaking, it isn't  all letterboard on some cars), makes me wonder if Bachmann measured a single window coach to get dimensions for their pseudo P70.




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Re: Heavyweight Coaches - Single Window
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2016, 08:19:07 PM »
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Awesome - thanks Thomas!