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Bill H

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Bachmann re-release B&O EM-1 with sound - what sound file?
« on: July 13, 2019, 09:09:24 AM »
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Bachmann is rerunning the EM-1 this fall using an Economi sound card. I wonder if they have an accurate simplex mallet sound file? Anybody heard, no pun intended?

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Re: Bachmann re-release B&O EM-1 with sound - what sound file?
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2019, 01:46:52 PM »
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Hi Bill.

The standard Econami decoder has four different chuff sounds: light, medium, heavy and geared.  By setting a CV, each of these can be turned into an articulated sound (essentially, double chuffs that are offset from each other a bit).  For the EM-1, I think the "heavy" steam chuff with articulation would be the right choice (if the Bachmann version in fact is a "standard" Econami that has all the choices).  The Econami also has 16 different whistle selections, along with different bells, dynamos, etc. You can "mix & match" all the choices via programming.  See here:  https://www.soundtraxx.com/dsd/econami/econami_sound.php?s=steam

It's a good decoder.  I've used a couple in the past, and my only gripe about them is that you can't get near-perfect matching of chuffs to wheel rotation at all speeds, like you can with ESU.  But you can get the match pretty good, especially from, say, speed step 5 (out of 128) all the way up to where it doesn't matter anymore.

I think ESU's articulated sound files (e.g., it's Big Boy and Challenger files) have better-sounding steam chuffs, but the Econami is pretty good, and ESU doesn't have the range of bells and whistles to choose from that you get with the Econami.

BTW, I know it's picky, but technically, there isn't such a thing as a "simplex mallet."  Mallet engines by definition used compound steam.  The chuffs from a true Mallet sound different than in a single-expansion articulated, and I don't think the Econami's "fake articulation" really captures the sound of a true Mallet (like the N&W Y's) very well.  But since the EM-1 was a single-expansion articulated, the Econami's design of using the same chuff sound slightly offset in time works well (I had one in one of my EM-1's once upon a time; since switched to ESU), although at high speed it begins to have a bit of a "gattling gun" sound . . .

John C.
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Re: Bachmann re-release B&O EM-1 with sound - what sound file?
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2019, 05:48:39 PM »
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Hi John:
Thanks for the input. We had a similar discussion back in 2014, when the first run of the EM-1s were released. I was hoping that by now ESU might have updated an appropriate sound file as I really do prefer ESU motor control and the ability to match the chuffs. And frankly, I like to keep my decoder fleet standardized so that instructions to operators are all the same as far as mapping.

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Re: Bachmann re-release B&O EM-1 with sound - what sound file?
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2019, 06:43:09 PM »
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Well, if you're an ESU fan, you can do what I did.

I had an Econami in one of my EM-1's (a Tsunami in the other), and I replaced them both with ESU LokSounds, using the Challenger sound file, which is pretty good, IMHO - although it has nothing like the EM-1's actual whistle.  With the LokSound 5, it should be a fairly simple process to replace (or add to) the available whistles if you want to use something more B&O-like.

John C.