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Has anyone produced this hopper car in N?
« on: May 06, 2019, 10:20:21 AM »
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Looked around the web over the morning coffee trying to find this particular open hopper in N scale.

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/ple/ple64448dsa.jpg

It looks to be close to the Bluford 14 panel car but with 2 less panels. I couldn't find anything closer than the Bluford car.
Did I miss anything? Wanting to model a 2000's W&LE stone train and there looks to be a good many of these ex-P&LE hoppers used in these trains.




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Re: Has anyone produced this hopper car in N?
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2019, 12:13:22 PM »
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Always start with checking Spookshows N scale reference:

http://www.spookshow.net/freight/freight.html

No direct hits but the Concor hopper has the right number of ribs but might be too high (can't really tell from the picture)

http://www.spookshow.net/freight/ll100hopper.html

The MT is close as well but probably too high as well

http://www.spookshow.net/freight/mt100ton3baycoal.html

The Bluford hopper has too many ribs and the MDC has too few

http://www.spookshow.net/freight/bluford70hop.html
http://www.spookshow.net/freight/mdc3bay.html

So the short answer for an exact match is probably no, but there are some possible stand ins. Sorry...
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Re: Has anyone produced this hopper car in N?
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2019, 02:26:04 PM »
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I've several of the Industrial Rail(LL/Concor/Bev-Bel) 3 bays and they are too tall(along with the MT car). They are pretty much the same at the Atlas 3 bay looking at them just designed differently. I use them for practice with my air brush. I've considered taking one and stripping away the layers of paint. Then being real careful, getting out my saw and shortening the body to the height of the Bluford hopper. I was trying to take the easy way out and not have to attempt to cut straight enough. I'll have to make some sort of guide to be able to guide the cuts. That and a shot of Jim Beam to steady my hands and I should be good to go right?

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Re: Has anyone produced this hopper car in N?
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2019, 02:34:20 PM »
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I've several of the Industrial Rail(LL/Concor/Bev-Bel) 3 bays and they are too tall(along with the MT car). They are pretty much the same at the Atlas 3 bay looking at them just designed differently. I use them for practice with my air brush. I've considered taking one and stripping away the layers of paint. Then being real careful, getting out my saw and shortening the body to the height of the Bluford hopper. I was trying to take the easy way out and not have to attempt to cut straight enough. I'll have to make some sort of guide to be able to guide the cuts. That and a shot of Jim Beam to steady my hands and I should be good to go right?

Make yourself a jig. This way you only have to get it right once.

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Re: Has anyone produced this hopper car in N?
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2019, 02:39:09 PM »
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I don't think it will be as simple as cutting off the top.  Looking at the vertical end piece on the prototype, it almost appears you have to cut like this to keep the top vertical and side slope configurations (Drawn by me on @spookshow 's picture):



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Re: Has anyone produced this hopper car in N?
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2019, 06:24:01 AM »
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Yes cutting from the bottom would be the way to go. Then having to lessen the angle of the slope at each end of the car would be next. So that would mean trimming the sides of the car at each end to match the new slope. Then some Archer rivets and a grab iron to replace the top cross brace. It's probably doable but will be a fair amount of work. I'm not sure my modeling abilities are up for the challenge just yet.

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Re: Has anyone produced this hopper car in N?
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2019, 12:02:30 PM »
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Don't waste your time cutting up a 100T hopper (MTL/Atlas/Life-Like)

The prototype is a 70T car that is approximately 42' long and 11' tall.   The 100T cars offered by MTL, etc. are based on prototypes that are approximately 46' long and 12'3" tall.

Best option would be to "re-rib" a 70T hopper with the same/similar dimensions (MDC or Bluford) or use the larger 100T car as a stand-in.