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Re: Weekend Update 3/5/17
« Reply #60 on: March 06, 2017, 03:16:43 PM »
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You are right about the cab.  Although I didn't fix it on my B6s, I am fussier now than I used to be, so I would fix it if I were doing this today.
If you are contemplating sawing off the cab, you could try reusing the Trix cab.   You would have to file off all the rivets and file the front and back shorter, to keep the windows centered.  That would probably mean cutting the front wall out first, and putting it back in after you file the walls shorter on the front.  Archer rivet decals would make short work of replacing the filed-off decals.  Don't forget to shorten the cab roof overhang. 

Thanks, Max.  I showed this to Verne.  It gave him a headache, just thinking about doing that.  I think we are going with the Bachmann cab, and call it a day.

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The PRR B6s had 56" drivers, not the 51" drivers that were common on 0-6-0 switchers, and it really shows when you look at this model compared to prototype photos. 
The Trix drivers are scale 53" across the tread, with big flanges, so they looked close.  These Bachmann drivers look smaller.
The B6s was a beefy looking machine and the driver size was a big part of that.   There is probably nothing you can do about the driver size.  But you CAN try lowering the boiler some more.  Getting it low down over the drivers will make them look bigger.


You are absolutely right about the drivers, Max.  Fixing that issue would require a new frame, siderods, and axles at a minimum.  Unfortunately, Verne has neither the skill set nor the tools to make that happen.  He is skilled with the Dremel, though.  I'll try to get him to lower the boiler a little more.
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Trying to re-create a part of south-central Pennsylvania in 1956, one small bit at a time.

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Re: Weekend Update 3/5/17
« Reply #61 on: March 06, 2017, 03:24:32 PM »
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So that's one of the "new" mechanisms? What's with that clunky-looking valve gear? Before posting this, I went to "Spookshow's" site just to double check, and sure enough, that hasn't changed.

One would think that that aspect of the model would have been up-graded by Bachmann as well...we know they can do it; look at the gear on their 2-8-0...

Mark in Oregon

What Max said.  I own 5 different Bachmann steam locomotives and each one is unique.  It's as if a different group of people is given the task to design and manufacture one of these, and none of the groups talk to each other.
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Re: Weekend Update 3/5/17
« Reply #62 on: March 06, 2017, 03:29:47 PM »
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Wolfe: Why the black roofs on the older trailers? I always thought that they were the same orange as the sides. Do you know something that I don't?

Well - darn it!! I misinterpreted photos I had seen. (As I did these about 10 years ago, so- I don't recall the details). I have 6 total. Well, looks like a repaint (of the roofs). Thanks, for bringing this to my attention. I really do appreciate that!! And - no, I don't know something you don't --- LOL.

Thanks again,
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Re: Weekend Update 3/5/17
« Reply #63 on: March 06, 2017, 03:46:30 PM »
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...It's as if a different group of people is given the task to design and manufacture one of these, and none of the groups talk to each other.

 :D :D :D :D :D

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Re: Weekend Update 3/5/17
« Reply #64 on: March 06, 2017, 04:19:52 PM »
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Cruised out to Gettysburg to catch up with Adam (mu126aeh) to exchange currency for engines. Got to do a shake down ops session for his newly renovated/redesigned Glatfelter mill section. I thought it went quite well and notes were made of items to be added for enhanced operations.

The lad (he's half my age) has an achievable vision for the scene and the talents to make it happen.

Thanks for the accolades but given the number of derailments and dead sidings, they're a little less deserving.   :facepalm:  They will definitely be fixed by the next time you come around. 

As Larry mentioned, we ran some ops on the newly expanded paper mill area on Sunday.  I recently changed out some Atlas and MT plastic wheelsets for metal ones and they don't seem as forgiving to track imperfections.  Also realized rather quickly I need to add a few more feeders.

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Re: Weekend Update 3/5/17
« Reply #65 on: March 06, 2017, 04:30:30 PM »
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What Max said.  I own 5 different Bachmann steam locomotives and each one is unique.  It's as if a different group of people is given the task to design and manufacture one of these, and none of the groups talk to each other.

I highly suspect that it is exactly as you described, especially if the locos are not designed in the same time period (different reissues of the models).
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Re: Weekend Update 3/5/17
« Reply #66 on: March 07, 2017, 05:54:58 AM »
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Spent Saturday at the OERM swap meet (Perris, CA) and measuring the real things. 

Got some killer deals.  Brand new Walthers Modern Roundhouse for $10?  Done!  A hand wrought, 4' long 2" track wrench?  Also $10?  Sold!   A collection of 12 Train Shed Cyclopedias... for free?  If I must....   

While there, I check out the stellar progress on the new SCRM Library.  They even got some me to help move some map cases around while I was scanning a few prototype pics for upcoming projects.

One project such project - designing a PE detail fret to do the as-built (pre-Ajax) caboose endrails and walk around cupola for the Espee C-30-1 (AKA the ubiquitous MTL N scale woodside caboose)(stay tuned).


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Re: Weekend Update 3/5/17
« Reply #67 on: March 07, 2017, 12:15:37 PM »
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One project such project - designing a PE detail fret to do the as-built (pre-Ajax) caboose endrails and walk around cupola for the Espee C-30-1 (AKA the ubiquitous MTL N scale woodside caboose)(stay tuned).

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Re: Weekend Update 3/5/17
« Reply #68 on: March 08, 2017, 09:28:59 AM »
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Verne finally returned to the shop last week.  He mumbled something about not having anything in common with Miss Dee anymore, and before I could stop him, he grabbed an old Minitrix 0-6-0 boiler shell, a new Bachmann 0-6-0 mechanism, and the Dremel.  Three days later, he returned with this.

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The biggest issue so far is that the cab is about 2 feet 4 inches longer that the prototype's, the PRR b6.  This discrepancy is visible in archival photos.  Do any of the other SPF's out there know any more about this than I do?  Was the Minitrix cab longer to hide their motor?

I could remove the Minitrix cab and replace it with the Bachmann cab....

Oh, yeah, the idea for this whole concept came from Max Magliaro in another thread, so he gets to share in the credit/blame for this project.

Any comments, positive or negative?  Max?

What to do about the cab?
There's always this: https://www.shapeways.com/product/NP6SE6DCR/n-scale-pennsylvania-h9-e6-g5-cab?optionId=12210016 but I think it might be the wrong style.

If you're going for "generic" there are a number of other cabs available on Shapeways that might fit the bill.

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Re: Weekend Update 3/5/17
« Reply #69 on: March 08, 2017, 10:34:02 AM »
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Sandy - I was talking with Ed and it seems some of the shows, at least Perris and Monroe here in Washington
had very amicable pricing on detail parts, rolling stock and structures. There were a few places that it was still 1989
in the hobby and we have money to burn. One guy had two propane tanks, with two crates and a detailed hand turned cement mixer
and wanted $45.00. I spent 40 bucks on a great haul of detail parts. Some vendors even had free junk, which I love.
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Re: Weekend Update 3/5/17
« Reply #70 on: March 08, 2017, 09:51:04 PM »
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What to do about the cab?
There's always this: https://www.shapeways.com/product/NP6SE6DCR/n-scale-pennsylvania-h9-e6-g5-cab?optionId=12210016 but I think it might be the wrong style.

If you're going for "generic" there are a number of other cabs available on Shapeways that might fit the bill.

Thanks, Ed.  I also have a spare 2-8-0 Bachmann cab that might work.  We'll make a decision after the locations of the boiler and the motor get finalized.  The 0-6-0 Bachmann cab may be too short to hide the latest motor.
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Re: Weekend Update 3/5/17
« Reply #71 on: March 09, 2017, 09:56:29 AM »
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Richie, Great photo of the former P&WV now W&LE bridge over the Monongahela river at Speers, PA. The lower level track connects with the former Wheeling Pittsburgh coke operations in Monessen, that is now being operated by ArcelorMittal. Jack (the photographer) also has a lot of great railroad videos on YouTube.  You're probably wondering why the odd design of the P&WV bridge over the river? The connector track Jack was standing on to take the photo, was also suppose to cross the river on the lower level of the bridge, to connect with the former PRR, now NS Mon Line.
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