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Re: Cool "Hulett Loader" photo on Shorpy
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2013, 12:46:15 PM »
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Cool. Hopper on the right - "PENNSYLVANIA LINES" with reporting marks of "PL". New to me!
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Re: Cool "Hulett Loader" photo on Shorpy
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2013, 02:15:44 PM »
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Judging from the flat, and the guy near the wheel above, it looks like they may be working on it.

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Re: Cool "Hulett Loader" photo on Shorpy
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2013, 01:38:54 AM »
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Mike:  I've never heard of the Pennsy using "PL" either.  That must be one OLD picture.
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Re: Cool "Hulett Loader" photo on Shorpy
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2013, 02:13:39 AM »
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Mike:  I've never heard of the Pennsy using "PL" either.  That must be one OLD picture.

The caption states "circa 1908". I wonder if PL was some sort of local dedicated service line (or subsidiary of PRR).

Did anybody notice the strange devices attached to the wing rails of the frogs?  There is a strap going through an opening through the web of the wing rail. I wonder if the cylindrical devices are some sort of spring-loaded adjusters? Also, the wing rails are not symmetrically spaced around the frog's point. It looks like a sprung-frog (as opposed to sprung switch points).  An early attempt of a slow speed movable frogs?
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Re: Cool "Hulett Loader" photo on Shorpy
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2013, 02:19:54 AM »
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I think I read somewhere the ship was commissioned in 1901.
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Re: Cool "Hulett Loader" photo on Shorpy
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2013, 06:53:23 AM »
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The caption states "circa 1908". I wonder if PL was some sort of local dedicated service line (or subsidiary of PRR).


It was. Pennsylvania Lines was the holding company for PRR Lines West.
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Re: Cool "Hulett Loader" photo on Shorpy
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2013, 07:03:26 PM »
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Very neat photo.  That is a PRR Class GL hopper, but with the PL reporting marks it looks like it is labeled class 'H'??

The Hulett is an older version with the beam as an open truss.  You can also clearly see the operator sitting in the window of his little coffin.

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Re: Cool "Hulett Loader" photo on Shorpy
« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2013, 01:57:00 AM »
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Peteski:  Those are spring-closed frogs.  They lasted at least into the late 1970s, as there were several just south (timetable west) of the Pasco depot in Washington.  The idea is that the frog stays closed on the branch side, giving a smother ride for mainline wheels.  When a cars takes the branch, the flanges force the frog open.  They were used where almost all of the traffic went one way, as there was quite a bit of wear on the closed side when flanges rubbed against it.  In spite of the cylinder being on both sides, it was strictly a one-way spring.  The other side apparently protected an extended alignment rod or something similar.

The odd thing here is that both frogs on the crossover are sprung, but they're not both sprung for the same route.  The one on the right is set for traffic going straight through, and the one on the left is set for the crossover.  That's a little weird, unless the left track isn't used much.  It doesn't look very well maintained.
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Re: Cool "Hulett Loader" photo on Shorpy
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2013, 05:50:51 AM »
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Peteski:  Those are spring-closed frogs. 

Interesting info - thanks!
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