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Re: My new helix and staging yard
« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2009, 12:24:29 AM »
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Wyatt, great to see it finished!  Hopefully I can make it down for the Temple show and your ops session.  Maybe I won't screw up your yard so badly this time...  ;D
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Re: My new helix and staging yard
« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2009, 06:30:06 AM »
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I stapled fiberglass screening along the edge of my one-turnlix to form  the guard rail...  This has several advantages...

1:  It's cheap and plentiful, especially if you have a cat that likes to claw up window screens.
2:  It's totally flexible and soft.  Reaching in won't give you paper cuts, and if you catch your cuff link on it, it won't get broken.
3:  It has millions of tiny holes that can grab a coupler glad hand and prevent a run-away without busting off the part.

That's an excellent suggestion! I can even think of another advantage: you can see through it, which means you can make it high enough to be effective without losing all knowledge of what's happening inside.
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Re: My new helix and staging yard
« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2009, 08:16:25 AM »
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Wyatt, awesome job on your helix man!!!
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Re: My new helix and staging yard
« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2009, 12:58:02 PM »
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I'm thinking about how I'm going to be approaching staging on my future layout, and I like the idea of "serial staging".

I don't. It's not very flexible.

Right now at the club, the mainline west of Sudbury is still under construction, so what is built so far basically becomes serial staging, since it doesn't connect to a staging yard yet. It is double track, so most of the trains can be put on one track (but not all will fit so you need to have some on each track), but you have to make sure everything is lined up in order, and the first ones out must be all on one track and that track needs to be cleared out before anything can arrive from the opposite direction. So you need to plan departures from both ends to make sure that there's a place in serial staging before any new trains to arrive.

Our main construction goal is to extend the line westward and actually get it terminated into a temporary staging yard while we start construction on the permanent staging and then the next phases of mainline expansion. Our main reasons for this being a priority are
1) capacity - using both tracks our staging capacity is currently 4-5 trains depending on length, and that's with 2 trains on the opposite track, so they need to leave before anything can come in. And once that first track is full of inbounds, nothing else can arrive until the last train has left from the second track. There's also some trains on the schedule we're not running, like the Canadian (which we should have in about a year or so from Rapido trains) and local RDCs, plus some other trains. We need the extra
2) reversing capability. A reverse loop will allow us to turn the passenger train to become the eastbound train later on.
3) extending the mainline for a longer run and adding more towns and locations

Single track serial staging certainly wouldn't work at all, since nothing can come in until everything has gone out.

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Re: My new helix and staging yard
« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2009, 01:33:38 PM »
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I've been struggling with staging for my layout. I'm not opposed to serial staging, but I'd be more doing it as two trains per staging track and I do realize they'd have to be in some sort of order. What I'm more struggling with is location of staging in relation to my layout and having it laid out in such a way that is both convenient for access and operationally reliable. The one design I keep coming back to on my multi-level layout is to have staging as the bottom level (call it level 0) with level 1 being 40-42" in height, and level 2 at 56-58" height. The staging level would probably be 30" in height. My main concern is those trains destined for the second level coming out of staging have a 26/28" climb at a tighter radius (I'm looking at 17.5" and 19" for level 0 to level 2 and 20.5" and 22" for level 0 to level 1) than the trains having only a 10" climb and I wonder the affect this could have on locomotive performance, especially with a second helix on the mainline run itself. Anyone have any thoughts/experiences operating there helices that would either validate or alleviate my concerns?

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