Author Topic: Weekend Update 11/3/24  (Read 5862 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

up1950s

  • Crew
  • *
  • Posts: 9752
  • Gender: Male
  • Respect: +2314
Re: Weekend Update 11/3/24
« Reply #45 on: November 05, 2024, 09:12:55 PM »
+1
I pretty much felt that way until I saw my first Kato 11-108/9 chassis.   They put one side of the 4-wheel chassis (with end-axle pickups) on a lever side, the other side is fixed.   It's so simple.  And it equalizes contact.  And it works.  And it's reliable.   Mind you, I did my trackmobile on an 11-103 chassis and had to add a fake scale test car just for electrical pickup as it was so poor, so yeah, normally, that's a huge problem.

No that's not an 0-6-0 chassis, I'm just saying that they solved the problem with that design.  It's a forehead-slap if there ever was one.

So the problem then evolves over to wheelbase, and if the wheebase is long enough to bridge insulated frogs.  Well, with powered frogs, you can get by that.

What I was thinking is that given the fat diameter of the boiler on a fireless loco , and if cast in metal , would that weight be significant enough to preclude the use of traction tires for that added benefit of conductivity? Not expecting it to pull more than 6 cars on the flat so the motor can remain thin . Would that added weight and 6 possible wheels if PU work ? And as you said the wheel base must > than frog , as well as the frog must not suspend the lead or trailing axle .


Richie Dost

OldEastRR

  • Crew
  • *
  • Posts: 3412
  • Gender: Male
  • Respect: +311
Re: Weekend Update 11/3/24
« Reply #46 on: November 05, 2024, 11:00:47 PM »
0
Trying to get this T-TRAK single into the home stretch before the Cordele Railfest this Saturday, but there’s so much left to do!

It looks like the buildings are very close to the edge of the road. Can cars even fit between the gas pumps and building?

Dave V

  • Crew
  • *
  • Posts: 11229
  • Gender: Male
  • Foothills Farm Studios -- Dave's Model Railroading
  • Respect: +9344
Re: Weekend Update 11/3/24
« Reply #47 on: November 06, 2024, 11:26:52 AM »
+1
It looks like the buildings are very close to the edge of the road. Can cars even fit between the gas pumps and building?

Having just started messing with T-TRAK myself, I'm learning that the depth of a standard module is frighteningly small, so I'm guessing this was a a practical accommodation, not a deliberate design choice.

jargonlet

  • Crew
  • *
  • Posts: 280
  • Respect: +142
Re: Weekend Update 11/3/24
« Reply #48 on: November 06, 2024, 01:41:57 PM »
0
Having just started messing with T-TRAK myself, I'm learning that the depth of a standard module is frighteningly small, so I'm guessing this was a a practical accommodation, not a deliberate design choice.

A standard set of modules will fit on a table.  It really adds to the ease of setup and cuts the space needed by the show organizers.

Dave V

  • Crew
  • *
  • Posts: 11229
  • Gender: Male
  • Foothills Farm Studios -- Dave's Model Railroading
  • Respect: +9344
Re: Weekend Update 11/3/24
« Reply #49 on: November 06, 2024, 06:12:23 PM »
0
A standard set of modules will fit on a table.  It really adds to the ease of setup and cuts the space needed by the show organizers.

LOL, I know all that, but it definitely imposes a strict reality on my typical grandiose plans...!

bbunge

  • Crew
  • *
  • Posts: 234
  • Respect: +317
Re: Weekend Update 11/3/24
« Reply #50 on: November 06, 2024, 07:20:03 PM »
+1
What I was thinking is that given the fat diameter of the boiler on a fireless loco , and if cast in metal , would that weight be significant enough to preclude the use of traction tires for that added benefit of conductivity? Not expecting it to pull more than 6 cars on the flat so the motor can remain thin . Would that added weight and 6 possible wheels if PU work ? And as you said the wheel base must > than frog , as well as the frog must not suspend the lead or trailing axle .


Seems to me to be just about the ideal set up for a three axle steam switcher... weight, enough room for a small decoder and a small keep alive.  With a good mech, fireless and tank engine shells could be interchanged by a manufacturer to provide two different options.     

Chris333

  • Crew
  • *
  • Posts: 18396
  • Respect: +5667
Re: Weekend Update 11/3/24
« Reply #51 on: November 06, 2024, 07:29:45 PM »
+2

peteski

  • Crew
  • *
  • Posts: 32958
  • Gender: Male
  • Honorary Resident Curmudgeon
  • Respect: +5342
    • Coming (not so) soon...
Re: Weekend Update 11/3/24
« Reply #52 on: November 06, 2024, 07:35:29 PM »
+3

Seems to me to be just about the ideal set up for a three axle steam switcher... weight, enough room for a small decoder and a small keep alive.  With a good mech, fireless and tank engine shells could be interchanged by a manufacturer to provide two different options.   

Fireless 0-6-0 loco is already available in N scale. Made by Liliput (IIRC, one of Bachmann brands).Unlikely to have any sort of equalized driver suspension.

https://www.dm-toys.de/en/product-details/Liliput_L161003.html




. . . 42 . . .


arbomambo

  • Crew
  • *
  • Posts: 1419
  • Respect: +1137
Re: Weekend Update 11/3/24
« Reply #54 on: November 07, 2024, 09:11:11 AM »
+1
It looks like the buildings are very close to the edge of the road. Can cars even fit between the gas pumps and building?

Yes, vehicles (including all the recently purchased Rasputen vehicles fit in the gas lanes between the buildings and the street curb; of course I test fit these tolerances before I glued them in place.
"STILL Thrilled to be in N scale!"

Bruce M. Arbo
CATT- Coastal Alabama T-TRAK
https://nationalt-traklayout.com/


peteski

  • Crew
  • *
  • Posts: 32958
  • Gender: Male
  • Honorary Resident Curmudgeon
  • Respect: +5342
    • Coming (not so) soon...
Re: Weekend Update 11/3/24
« Reply #55 on: November 07, 2024, 10:04:54 AM »
+1
walmart.com/ip/Stainless-Steel-Double-Wheel-Cutter-Versatile-Pizza-Cutter-Vegetable-Cheese-Cutting-Tool-Handheld-Rolling-Perfectly-Slicing-Pizza-Cheese-More
LOL
Well sure. That is pretty much given since that's still the standard in European N scale*.  They still use rapido couplers too.  ;)
And many modelers have been cutting down tall flanges for decades - nothing new.  I just pointed out that the model exists.

*I have also noticed some European manufacturers have been reducing the flange height slightly.  Nothgin like lo-profile wheels which are popular in USA, but at least a positive trend has begun.
« Last Edit: November 07, 2024, 10:06:50 AM by peteski »
. . . 42 . . .

pmpexpress

  • Crew
  • *
  • Posts: 590
  • Respect: +156
    • Trains N Scale
Re: Weekend Update 11/3/24
« Reply #56 on: November 07, 2024, 10:40:11 AM »
0
Fireless 0-6-0 loco is already available in N scale. Made by Liliput (IIRC, one of Bachmann brands).Unlikely to have any sort of equalized driver suspension.

https://www.dm-toys.de/en/product-details/Liliput_L161003.html



Pete,

You certainly have a knack for locating obscure European models.

Although I have collected and sold the HO and HOe Scale Austrian manufactured (i.e., pre-Bachmann acquisition) line of Liliput models in the past, Bachmann/Liliput's entry into the N-Scale market is news to me.

Released as Liliput L161001, the Meiningen Type C model was also produced in the Dresden Transport Museum (Verkehrs Museum Dresden) paint scheme.

https://www.dm-toys.de/en/product-details/Liliput_L161001.html?srsltid=AfmBOoqQJ_ux7n-1fN099Kxmfrc4k21eCIfSLt8vwrbLf2yc_HRomUTJ



These locomotives are offered in Analog, DCC Digital, and Selectrix versions.

Despite the large flanges and Rapido couplers, the Liliput Meiningen Type C is still a compelling model to add to one's N-Scale roster.
« Last Edit: November 07, 2024, 11:10:26 AM by pmpexpress »

Ed Kapuscinski

  • Global Moderator
  • Crew
  • *
  • Posts: 24745
  • Head Kino
  • Respect: +9272
    • Conrail 1285
Re: Weekend Update 11/3/24
« Reply #57 on: November 07, 2024, 02:01:52 PM »
0
A standard set of modules will fit on a table.  It really adds to the ease of setup and cuts the space needed by the show organizers.

There are plenty of ways around that though. Most shows I've been to have used double rows of tables. Or, and this is a unique way to solve the problem, just balance any "deep" modules you make with something narrow: a 6" deep thing that just has the tracks and maybe some bushes. I haven't done that, but I've thought about it.

peteski

  • Crew
  • *
  • Posts: 32958
  • Gender: Male
  • Honorary Resident Curmudgeon
  • Respect: +5342
    • Coming (not so) soon...
Re: Weekend Update 11/3/24
« Reply #58 on: November 07, 2024, 03:26:34 PM »
0
Pete,

You certainly have a knack for locating obscure European models.

Although I have collected and sold the HO and HOe Scale Austrian manufactured (i.e., pre-Bachmann acquisition) line of Liliput models in the past, Bachmann/Liliput's entry into the N-Scale market is news to me.

Thanks Neville. Yes, I do enjoy discovering models of unusual prototype.
There is a decent range of N scale models made under the Liliput name.  Currently DM-Toys has 64 items slisted in-stock, and there are others which were sold-out.  I also own another N scale Liliput model of a more conventional electric locomotive.

https://www.dm-toys.de/en/list/manufacturer/Liliput.html


. . . 42 . . .

arbomambo

  • Crew
  • *
  • Posts: 1419
  • Respect: +1137
Re: Weekend Update 11/3/24
« Reply #59 on: November 07, 2024, 04:00:27 PM »
0
There are plenty of ways around that though. Most shows I've been to have used double rows of tables. Or, and this is a unique way to solve the problem, just balance any "deep" modules you make with something narrow: a 6" deep thing that just has the tracks and maybe some bushes. I haven't done that, but I've thought about it.

Ed,
It still boggles my mind as to how most people (not you) seem to think that T-TRAK Layouts are modules always arranged back-to-back on a table…
I’m working on a 20” deep module that can be used in single row layouts, or single row sections of layouts.
We do plenty of layouts and portions of layouts that are composed of single rows of modules like FreeMo layouts.
I just don’t get it sometimes…
"STILL Thrilled to be in N scale!"

Bruce M. Arbo
CATT- Coastal Alabama T-TRAK
https://nationalt-traklayout.com/