N scale steam hiawatha

[Dreyfusshudson]

Trying to get fox valley's hiawatha, but I couldn't find it even on ebay.
It's around 800$-curious why fox valley didn't release it.

And about GHQ's hiawatha-heard that pewter one is better than resin one.
How do youbthink about it?

[peteski]

Trying to get fox valley's hiawatha, but I couldn't find it even on ebay.
It's around 800$-curious why fox valley didn't release it.

This type of question comes up whenever some model which has not be re-released for some time  (or released only once) is desired by someone like you, and you see high prices paid for it in the secondary market.  Besides, when you looked on eBay, did you search completed listings or active listings?  EBay is crazy nowadays. Sellers put up listings asking outrageous prices hoping to lure someone willing to spent the unreasonable amount of  money to buy the item. The have listings like that active for months or even years with no takers.  Looking for completed listings gives you more realistic view of the actual selling prices.

Why manufacturers do not get the hint and re-run such products? Because the high prices seen do not necessarily reflect the need for larger quantities.  It might be just few modelers willing to pay unreasonable price for the product. That doesn't mean that a new run of thousands sets would sell well, even it was priced at  MSRP (lower than the currently going high prices).

[learmoia]

This type of question comes up whenever some model which has not be re-released for some time  (or released only once) is desired by someone like you, and you see high prices paid for it in the secondary market.  Besides, when you looked on eBay, did you search completed listings or active listings?  EBay is crazy nowadays. Sellers put up listings asking outrageous prices hoping to lure someone willing to spent the unreasonable amount of  money to buy the item. The have listings like that active for months or even years with no takers.  Looking for completed listings gives you more realistic view of the actual selling prices.

Why manufacturers do not get the hint and re-run such products? Because the high prices seen do not necessarily reflect the need for larger quantities.  It might be just few modelers willing to pay unreasonable price for the product. That doesn't mean that a new run of thousands sets would sell well, even it was priced at  MSRP (lower than the currently going high prices).

Which side of the coin that that set fall in the Fox Valley/Scale Trains merger?
Scale Trains/FVM or Intermountain/Scale America?

[chessie system fan]

I just saw a Fox Valley locomotive and complete passenger car set sell for about $500, which is a more typical price.

[peteski]

Which side of the coin that that set fall in the Fox Valley/Scale Trains merger?
Scale Trains/FVM or Intermountain/Scale America?

That's a very good question.

[learmoia]

That's a very good question.

Scale Trains = You'll see an announcement eventually and it will be here in less than a year.
Intermountain = You'll see an announcement................




























......... and eventually they will put it on the production schedule.. ...

[u18b]

There were at least two variations of this locomotive (in case you didn't know).

First release had a plain tender.
https://www.trains.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Fox20Valley20Models20HO20scale20Hiawatha20passenger20train.jpg


Second release has a large Hiawatha logo on the tender.
http://www.tophobbytrains.com/images/products/detail/FVM40012.1.jpg


As you might imagine, lots of people who bought the first run wanted the second run.    So locos without the Hiawatha logo are more common and go for less.

[mmagliaro]

There were two releases of this locomotive (in case you didn't know).

First release had a plain tender.
https://thumbs.worthpoint.com/zoom/images3/1/1117/15/fox-valley-models-fvm-40001-1935_1_be2791308b887ea24e9840fd6943a116.jpg

Second release has a large Hiawatha logo on the tender.
http://www.tophobbytrains.com/images/products/detail/FVM40012.1.jpg

As you might imagine, lots of people who bought the first run wanted the second run.    So locos without the Hiawatha logo are more common and go for less.

Looks like a great opportunity for somebody to make a decal of that logo...

[sd45elect2000]

The original issue had locomotive #1. The second release was not a boxed set, but it could be had with locomotive #2 and another complete car set purchased individually. I also have #3 but I don't think he ever did the 4 spot. In any case I have the three locomotives, still waiting for the 4.

I also need the 1937 cars to go with the three and the four.

Randy

[Dreyfusshudson]

Oh, I forgot to right re-release, not release...


Well, how about ghq's hiawatha kits?

[chessie system fan]

Here's @Cad5 's thread on the 1939 locomotive.

https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?topic=55792.0

And if you missed it, I've been designing some of the later cars.  The 1937 train is almost done. 

https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?topic=55911.0

[Dreyfusshudson]

Here's @Cad5 's thread on the 1939 locomotive.

https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?topic=55792.0

And if you missed it, I've been designing some of the later cars.  The 1937 train is almost done. 

https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?topic=55911.0

Seems like pewter one is better, alothough it's hard to find it...

[peteski]

I had 2-part article published in N-Scale magazine (Nov/Dec 2012 and Jan/Feb2013) about the initial  release of the Hiawatha. It offered extensive review of the loco, cars and also some modifications to improve its operation (which wasn't all that bad to begin with).

[peteski]

Seems like pewter one is better, alothough it's hard to find it...

Pewter model is better than the FVM  model?  Why do you think that?  I'm not really familiar with the GHQ kit.  What did it use for the 4-4-2 mechanism?

[Dreyfusshudson]

Pewter model is better than the FVM  model?  Why do you think that?  I'm not really familiar with the GHQ kit.  What did it use for the 4-4-2 mechanism?

I read Ghq kit build thread above.
There's comparison between resin and pewter kits.