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Re: UP's N Scale Canyon Division Layout Build....
« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2024, 05:27:24 PM »
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… trucks. I'm going to change a lot of the detail on the car and also design two other types of stakes to hold the logs on the car.

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Sawmill Design/Build – Part 15--- Logging Car Pt. 2
« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2024, 05:03:30 PM »
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Sawmill Design/Build – Part 15--- Logging Car Pt. 2

I put the two first versions of the log car on my small test layout and ran them around......



…........... pulling them and pushing them with no problems. Also pulled and pushed them through some of the turnouts without a problem. Not sure if all that will be true if there were 10 to 20 of them together. There is a little room for strips of lead weight in the bottoms at the moment which might help and with log loads things might prove to be better or not.


My first version of the car is above.



I changed the sides to look like above and will add some detail to the cross bunks as shown in the next image.



I hope to have three versions of the car. The one before the image above with the low bunks where chains would hold the logs on. Then the version above that has some mid-height side stakes to hold the logs. There are also three sets of holes in the tops of the stakes for chains that could further secure the logs.



The stakes in real life as far as I can tell are designed to swing down. I wasn't able to find any real good pictures or descriptions of how that all works. From the pictures I saw there is a pivot point for the stake at the end of the bunk. Below that there is what I believe to be a pin that holds the stake up or pull it to rotate the stake down. Anyone have more info on that?



I'm happy with this car and after a few small mods will call it done.

The last car to be designed will look more like a flat car (extend the width of this car) with stake pockets on the side and 4 pairs of stakes that don't swing down. The car would be emptied a log at a time with mobile excavator looking piece of equipment or with a large forklift/ front-end loader piece of equipment like  a Wagner log loader which my sawmill will have along with a large A frame hoist



Above the car has been printed and still need to be removed from the supports which only takes a minute or so. The detail of the swivel stake is incredibly small, down to less than 2 N scale inches.



I have about an hours worth of changes I want to make to this car and then will move onto the last of the three versions.

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Re: UP's N Scale Canyon Division Layout Build....
« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2024, 05:41:14 PM »
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I missed it - how are you attaching the truck to the car?

It sounds like you are doing what I do - I hollow out the center sills on my cars for inserting weights of various sizes... apologies for the crappy image (the cars were off in the distance and not center of focus at all) but you can see below center sills with and without brass rod weights added. I usually use around 0.75mm thickness. I also tend to draft the ends of the weight channel slightly but I doubt you'd need to do that... I do it as I tend to print these vertically.




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Re: UP's N Scale Canyon Division Layout Build....
« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2024, 06:25:44 AM »
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This is a great model.  I need to start using fusion.    I’ve just about maxed out tinkercad

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Re: UP's N Scale Canyon Division Layout Build....
« Reply #19 on: September 10, 2024, 09:01:12 AM »
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I missed it - how are you attaching the truck to the car?

Similar to what you are doing with holes for the truck pins and a long slot that some weight could go in.  At this point I'm not designing or printing detail for the bottom of the car.  I don't/can't see it basically on my layout.  If later I have time I'll come back to it and see what I can do.

Nice work on your cars.

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Re: UP's N Scale Canyon Division Layout Build....
« Reply #20 on: September 10, 2024, 09:55:29 AM »
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Gotcha, thanks.

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Re: UP's N Scale Canyon Division Layout Build....
« Reply #21 on: September 10, 2024, 10:03:53 AM »
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Re: UP's N Scale Canyon Division Layout Build....
« Reply #22 on: September 10, 2024, 10:18:33 AM »
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Thanks for the image. One of the low priority projects that I've not started is fishbelly style logging flats, for another layout. Watching your work has started to get some creative juices flowing. I need to dive into the NP files to see what they have.

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Re: UP's N Scale Canyon Division Layout Build....
« Reply #23 on: September 15, 2024, 07:42:58 PM »
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Sawmill Design/Build – Pt. 16 -- Log Car Pt. 3....

To keep my layout build up to-date I'll not repeat my update on the log car here but you can find it on Railwire .....  ( HERE )


or on on my website ......  ( HERE )

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Sawmill Design/Build – Part 23 -- Sawmill Assembly Pt. 1.
« Reply #24 on: November 03, 2024, 12:44:13 PM »
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Been posting most of my sawmill build in the 3D forum so decided to throw an update to what is going on now here in the layout build.

Starting the assembly of the mill's main building. I felt the walls were to short on my first go around after seeing how tall the real band saw was. Raise all the walls and also added a footer around the bottom of the wood sided walls. That resulted in changes to the green chain and the roof supports for it and a number of other items also needed changing like the loading docks and such.

In the pictures that follow the walls have be CA glued together. The interior detail that is shown is only sitting there and I'll probably never attach it to the floor very securely so that I can remove it for painting and maybe making changes to it. The same with the floor that is there. It lays in place for easy removal.



Printing the other floor as I type this. Also the roof will lift off to see the interior and also the side wall to the right above can be slid up and out to see the interior better.



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Time to start painting, lots of it and will do a lot of the detailed parts later.

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Re: UP's N Scale Canyon Division Layout Build....
« Reply #25 on: November 05, 2024, 03:36:56 PM »
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@Sumner, what 3D printer are you using for the log cars?  I'm tempted to get one so I can learn to print those log cars :).

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Re: UP's N Scale Canyon Division Layout Build....
« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2024, 06:55:09 PM »
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@Sumner, what 3D printer are you using for the log cars?  I'm tempted to get one so I can learn to print those log cars :).

AnyCubic Photon M3 that I got new for $208 a couple years ago.  It has a fairly large build volume for a printer in that price range.  I've been very happy with it but also contribute the resin I've been using to the happiness for the detail and strength of the prints I've been doing, Siraya Tech 'Build' Sonic Grey resin (all I use for everything).

Doesn't look like that printer is a current option unless maybe purchased used.

If I needed one now I'd probably look at the Elegoo Mars 4 Max or the Anycubic Photon Mono X 6Ks for their build volume and $250 or under price.  Saying that I'm not recommending either necessarily as I haven't read the reviews or looked into them much.  They have a larger build volume than my M3 has and wouldn't want to go smaller.

Maybe others will have a take on what is out there now.  Regardless highly recommend the 'Build' resin for its strength, flexibility, detail and you can tap and drill it.

I'd also not be doing resin printing without a wash-n-cure station.  At $100 makes the whole process easy and mess free.  Good luck and a printer can quickly pay for itself with all the options out there now of things one can print for their layout (thousands).

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