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Re: ScaleTrains.com GP30 annouced
« Reply #30 on: June 22, 2024, 06:57:05 PM »
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They need to slow down.

Thank goodness no ATSF in this run.  Or SP.  Or BN.  Or patched stuff.

I feel that...
I just hope in time they will do some of the GP30u's...
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Re: ScaleTrains.com GP30 annouced
« Reply #31 on: June 22, 2024, 06:59:16 PM »
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How about CSX slugs?

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Re: ScaleTrains.com GP30 annouced
« Reply #32 on: June 22, 2024, 08:01:06 PM »
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How about CSX slugs?
One of those with blanked out grills and stacks with slug appropriate sounds is in this release. It's a neat piece and hopefully they will do other slugs and unique variations in the future
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Re: ScaleTrains.com GP30 annouced
« Reply #33 on: June 22, 2024, 08:12:43 PM »
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One of those with blanked out grills and stacks with slug appropriate sounds is in this release. It's a neat piece and hopefully they will do other slugs and unique variations in the future

lol I didn't watch the whole video  :facepalm: GP30 slugs used to run out of a yard off of my street to a steel mill. I'd see them everyday on the way to work. There were 3 different slugs that ran around town with a GP38.

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Re: ScaleTrains.com GP30 annouced
« Reply #34 on: June 22, 2024, 08:46:41 PM »
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I think you can find a few on the Rocky-SOO transfer.  I think there's one with a RI SW1500 leading.

Jason

Ahh I had been looking for that photo.. I saw it several years ago.. but in my memory it was an F-7B not a GP30B.

For the SW1500 leading.. maybe your thinking of this..

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Re: ScaleTrains.com GP30 annouced
« Reply #35 on: June 22, 2024, 09:15:12 PM »
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Ahh I had been looking for that photo.. I saw it several years ago.. but in my memory it was an F-7B not a GP30B.

For the SW1500 leading.. maybe your thinking of this..


Maybe but I don't think so.  I have a few collections from Minnesota railfans that aren't online.  I started looking for it, but nothing yet.  I've moved all my files to NAS and generating thumbnails for folders with hundreds of photos takes forever.  :|

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Re: ScaleTrains.com GP30 annouced
« Reply #36 on: June 22, 2024, 10:05:49 PM »
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Here it is...

From the Greg Smith collection.



It wasn't a SW1500 but a SW1200 with Flexicoil trucks.

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Re: ScaleTrains.com GP30 annouced
« Reply #37 on: June 23, 2024, 02:04:51 AM »
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Those later Rio Grande GP30s are hawt... Like doing a T-Trak D&RGW Tennessee Pass layout kind of hawt...
I was telling a buddy of mine that my future layout will probably be based on the line from Denver to SLC so that I can run my modern UP and BNSF trains but also back date when I want and run 80's DRGW with GP30s, GP40s, SD40-2s and SD40T2. SOOO HAWT!!!
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Re: ScaleTrains.com GP30 annouced
« Reply #38 on: June 23, 2024, 05:17:14 PM »
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How about CSX slugs?

Chris, you need to wash your mouth out.   ;)

Different railroads use different terminology.

CSX calls these Roadmates. (the ancestor of this idea come from Seaboard Coast Line who bought from GE specially created new locos called MATEs designed to run and be paired with U36Bs. What made them different from typical "slugs" is that they could provide fuel for the mother and they were geared and intended to be used on the road. MATEs were geared for running at 75mph whereas most slugs are used more for switching in yards or short-range local service.)

Here are the CSX units listed.

http://www.trainweb.org/csxphotos/model_RDMT.htm

CSX send a bunch of GP30s and GP35s to be worked on. If I remember correctly, most of the work was done by VMV. A few units had their origin on roads besides SBD System and Chessie. Some of them came from GM&O/ICG. The link above tells the origin of each loco.

The prime movers were removed, as were radiators and radiator fans.
They retained traction motors, fuel tanks, dynamic brakes AND the control stands.

These were originally paired with working/updated GP40-2s.  And like the SCL MATEs before them, these were all designed for high speed long distance road service.

And as stated above, the mother loco could draw fuel from the Roadmate. And since the Roadmate had a control stand, the set could be operated in any direction. As in this photo:
http://www.trainweb.org/csxphotos/photos/RDMT/2371CSX-yn3.jpg

The first order was for 30. And they proved so successful that CSX ordered a LOT more.
CSX has put these pairs to extensive use and some are still in operation many years after the rebuilding/modification effort. Only the the first pair appeared in the old Blue and gray scheme. The rest of the early units all wore stealth gray- which would date them about 1988. The latter units arrived in Bright Future dating them to about 1990.

Units 220 - 2330 were all GP30s and GP35s.
The program was so successful that CSX kept going. Numbers 2331- 2387 contain a lot of pre-DASH 2 GP40s and GP38s and even a few GP38-2s and GP40-2s (judging from the dyn brake blisters).

Hope this info helps a little.
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Re: ScaleTrains.com GP30 annouced
« Reply #40 on: June 23, 2024, 05:25:19 PM »
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The prime movers were removed, as were radiators and radiator fans.
They retained traction motors, fuel tanks, dynamic brakes AND the control stands.
Ron, when they took the prime movers out, did they reinstall any type of weight or ballast to offset the weight that was lost?
I seem to recall that large blocks of concrete were used?
« Last Edit: June 23, 2024, 05:35:52 PM by Bendtracker1 »

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Re: ScaleTrains.com GP30 annouced
« Reply #41 on: June 23, 2024, 05:32:17 PM »
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I think you are correct.

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Re: ScaleTrains.com GP30 annouced
« Reply #43 on: June 23, 2024, 06:55:48 PM »
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Yeah I'm not a diesel guy at all, but I like GP30's. Now will they be doing SD30's next?  :lol:

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Re: ScaleTrains.com GP30 annouced
« Reply #44 on: June 23, 2024, 08:17:14 PM »
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Those are to be announced on April 1st.
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