ScaleTrains announced they're doing the Big Black J (in HO)

[Ed Kapuscinski]

Looks like they're getting into a new product line 

https://www.scaletrains.com/ho-scale/ho-scale-locomotives/fox-valley-models-ho-scale-n-w-class-j-4-8-4.html

They're also doing some cars to go along with em.

https://www.scaletrains.com/ho-scale/passenger-cars/fox-valley-models-ho-scale-pullman-standard-passenger-car.html

Neat.

Now I wonder what size batteries they use...

And if they're shipped in discreet packaging.

[C855B]

'D' cells would be about right for HO.

What gets me is they're calling them "Fox Valley" even though they're ex-MTH tooling. I guess because they own the FV trade name now and didn't want to go through the hassle of creating another marketing identity. Possibility of these being ported to N is zero (IMO).

What got my attention is the SD45 (HO) announcement. That is certainly port-able to N, although I wonder if they would undermine Atlas in that way. Also, like Atlas... no UP in the first announced run. What?

[jagged ben]

I think that's their 4th run of HO SD45.  But yeah, no UP yet.

[Ed Kapuscinski]

Possibility of these being ported to N is zero (IMO)

I can send you an N Scale one if you want...

[C855B]

I can send you an N Scale one if you want...

Ha ha. Have one. Surprisingly, it's one of my best runners.

[Mark5]

What gets me is they're calling them "Fox Valley" even though they're ex-MTH tooling. I guess because they own the FV trade name now and didn't want to go through the hassle of creating another marketing identity.

Possibly because MTH still has a presence of some sort: https://mthtrains.com

Scale Trains only purchased HO & S tooling, so they can't have an MTH "brand".

Glad to see ST release the Arrow cars - the MTH versions had nice tooling, but they got the N&W "red" so wrong. 

Mark

[Missaberoad]

Ha ha. Have one. Surprisingly, it's one of my best runners.

Something tells me he wasn't talking about an engine 🤔 

[greenwizard88]

Possibly because MTH still has a presence of some sort: https://mthtrains.com

Scale Trains only purchased HO & S tooling, so they can't have an MTH "brand".

Glad to see ST release the Arrow cars - the MTH versions had nice tooling, but they got the N&W "red" so wrong. 

Mark

MTH had 2 runs, each with different variations of maroon. I emailed them to ask if they're going with variation 1, 2, or a 3rd.

I have 7 or the 8 passenger cars in the original release, so Scale Trains is only doing one number that I don't already have. I don't know how to feel about this, should I buy another 8 to match the J that I'm going to order, or do I hope that they colors are "close enough". Aside from the $800, I'm running out of space to store stuff.

I didn't ask, but now I'm curious if the model is going to have the MTH cam that BLI copied and was subsequently sued for, or if Scale Trains has a license to use it or bought the patent for it.

[Mark5]

The Arrow pics on the site look a bit "milky" to me (not like anything I ever saw).

https://www.scaletrains.com/fox-valley-models-ho-scale-pullman-standard-diner-norfolk-western-powhatan-arrow.html

It isn't horrible though (ie purple). 

Mark

[GM50 4164]

Looks like they're getting into a new product line 

https://www.scaletrains.com/ho-scale/ho-scale-locomotives/fox-valley-models-ho-scale-n-w-class-j-4-8-4.html

They're also doing some cars to go along with em.

https://www.scaletrains.com/ho-scale/passenger-cars/fox-valley-models-ho-scale-pullman-standard-passenger-car.html

Neat.

Now I wonder what size batteries they use...

And if they're shipped in discreet packaging.

ROFLMAO!!! I get what you're saying!

[learmoia]

ROFLMAO!!! I get what you're saying!

[greenwizard88]

MTH had 2 runs, each with different variations of maroon. I emailed them to ask if they're going with variation 1, 2, or a 3rd.

I have 7 or the 8 passenger cars in the original release, so Scale Trains is only doing one number that I don't already have. I don't know how to feel about this, should I buy another 8 to match the J that I'm going to order, or do I hope that they colors are "close enough". Aside from the $800, I'm running out of space to store stuff.

I didn't ask, but now I'm curious if the model is going to have the MTH cam that BLI copied and was subsequently sued for, or if Scale Trains has a license to use it or bought the patent for it.

I got a response, they are going with option 3. My wallet says to buy a "J" and get some different number cars in a later run, but my heart knows that the colors will never match. No one can ever get the colors to match. I'm going to go cry $600 tears now.