Author Topic: Late ‘60s container traffic: REX 3400-series G85 flats and Unit-Haul containers  (Read 781 times)

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thbguy

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Good morning,

One month into my two-month lay-off and am finally looking at train projects.

REX 3400-3440 (23 cars)


Not sure how I missed these until now, but I guess I have been focused on the flexi-van cars and trailer traffic. But from 1962 until about 1970 (when the cars were sold to Soo line), Railway Express Agency (REA) ran these cars in container service on Chicago - NYC, and NYC - Detroit New York Central passenger and fast mail trains like number 13 and the Empire State Express (50). Looking through the 1966 and 1968 passenger car consists on Terry Link’s CASO web site, about one car is seen at the front end in consists of flexi-vans about 5 days a week, usually on train 50 westbound, and 13 eastbound.

These cars were done by Walthers in HO scale, and N scale G85 flat cars are made by both Trainworx and Con-Cor. However, there are details for this version not shown on either model, so I plan to bash an undec Atlas trash container flat I have on hand. The unique container braces and side details, along with the decking will all be bashed.


The 20’ containers are also unique with an access door on one side. And a great logo for “Unit-Haul”. I know that REA was also experimenting with 5’ and 10’ containers on similar flat cars, but have not seen evidence of them in this service. The Stricktainers were fitted for Strickland rather than Clejan style bogies and a 5000’ loaded container could apparently be pushed by a single man on or off the car.

Has anyone noticed these cars traveling further west than Chicago or on any other railroads?

I’ll post some pictures when I get this thing a little further past the design stage.

Best regards,
Michael
Michael Livingston
Modeling southern Ontario in N scale

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt. ~ Abraham Lincoln.

thomasjmdavis

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There is some more info on the Atlas forum:
https://atlasrescueforum.proboards.com/thread/9403/rea-unithaul-early-intermodal

I think the cars may also have been seen on EL mail trains from the east coast to Chicago.  There is at least mention of "strick-tainers" -
https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?topic=43647.26 (scroll to message #26)
EDIT- Also take a look at the photo in message 1 of that thread.

Santa Fe Fast Mail consists do mention COFC, but the only photos I've seen are of ATSF's own mail containers (flats rebuilt from old diners and lounges, with custom containers).



« Last Edit: January 22, 2024, 02:05:47 PM by thomasjmdavis »
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Here's hoping you find a good container solution so the rest of us mail and express fans can be lazy and benefit from your work!

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The NYC Odyssey videos (Second half of Volume 1 and Most of the way through Volume 2) have numerous examples of these in trains.. along with Stricktainers on Flexivans.

I don't recall if they had any of the smaller (5' and 10') containers being used.. but maybe those were loaded into baggage cars

~Ian

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I started that other thread on here that was linked in an earlier post. That’s the only photo I’ve ever seen of one on the EL and for that matter didn’t know they existed before that. I would love to have one in n scale so I like Sokrimaketes, hope you find a solution. Walthers did do them in ho and I have one. If you need photos of parts of it, I can provide those. I haven’t had it out for a while but from what I remember it doesn’t vary much from thw G85

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Here's hoping you find a good container solution so the rest of us mail and express fans can be lazy and benefit from your work!

I am attempting to kitbash a container from a couple of trailers and the old interail kit. We shall see!
Michael Livingston
Modeling southern Ontario in N scale

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt. ~ Abraham Lincoln.

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Here is a start.
I need to get some braces to square everything up when I put it together.



Michael Livingston
Modeling southern Ontario in N scale

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt. ~ Abraham Lincoln.