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Re: Weekend Update 12/17/23
« Reply #30 on: December 19, 2023, 01:43:44 PM »
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My local NMRA Division setup our HO modular layout in an empty store at the local mall; they donated the space to us. We've been open for two weekends now.  One of our younger members brought in an extensive G setup, including several Thomas trains that are a big it with the little ones. He also has a 2-6-0 that has a whistle that can be heard several storefronts down.  I contributed a loop of Kato Unitrack and a DC power pack.  (Turns out I only have a few locos that are still DC.) We've had N Scale, HO Scale and G Scale (?) trains running reliably throughout both weekends.  One of our members also brought in three T-Trak modules to display.

Generally well received. Personally I wish the modules had better scenery, but I have my own trials and tribulations in my train room and I'm in no position to work on these.  Maybe post-retirement, someday...












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They should just let the club keep the model railroads set up in the mall permanently. Most malls are struggling to get anyone to come in the door and need something you ain't gonna find at Wallyworld or on Amazon. Honestly, I'd go just to see the trains and pick up some General Tso's chicken at the food court. Being that this is the interbutts and the interbutts runs on complaining and being miserable I'm sure some Debbie Downer will be along to tell me why that's not gonna work.
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Re: Weekend Update 12/17/23
« Reply #31 on: December 19, 2023, 02:09:13 PM »
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... I'm sure some Debbie Downer will be along to tell me why that's not gonna work.

Debbie here. Liability, and the insurance thereof. Trip-and-fall over a stray power cord. Stuff like that. Club may or may not have the resources to purchase their own policy. They're typically not impossibly expensive, so it's going to depend on the makeup of the club and how they handle mutual expenses.

I just went through this with another avocational interest group I'm sponsoring. We were requesting use of a quasi-public space (a schoolroom, in this instance), and they required insurance. It was $600/yr., but our meetings aren't necessarily catering to the public. Public-access situations might be more costly.
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Re: Weekend Update 12/17/23
« Reply #32 on: December 19, 2023, 03:21:42 PM »
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There's a great club in Myrtle Beach that has a permanent spot in a mall location.  They're all modular, but to walk in you'd think they had permanent HO and N layouts.  It can be done.
Myrtle Beach is also full of retired dentists and lawyers, so I'm sure the club has ample resources at its disposal to dispense with such technicalities.  Either through funding the insurance, or properly wording the waiver... :D

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Re: Weekend Update 12/17/23
« Reply #33 on: December 19, 2023, 05:48:41 PM »
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@wm3798 would you know which mall/club that is?   (Just thinking ahead, for the next time I may be in that area on vacation.)

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Re: Weekend Update 12/17/23
« Reply #34 on: December 19, 2023, 06:42:29 PM »
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Meanwhile here in Maryland - Marley Station Mall is being a grinch

https://www.wbaltv.com/article/marley-station-mall-holiday-train-garden-leaving/46154307

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GLEN BURNIE, Md. —

A three-decades-long holiday tradition in Anne Arundel County is coming to an end, at least for now. Those behind the holiday train garden say they can no longer afford rent at Marley Station Mall.

The garden goes from the ceiling to the centerpiece with cars and even aliens. However, folks of all ages come for the 15 tracks of trains.

Jon Ward wears the conductor hat at the Holiday Train Garden. His first year in charge has come with cargo he wasn't expecting. He says rent is increasing from $65 a month to $2,500 a month.
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Re: Weekend Update 12/17/23
« Reply #35 on: December 19, 2023, 07:45:26 PM »
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Reese:  Back in the early 70s, one of the elevators on the BN(NP) north of Pasco had a tractor specifically modified for moving cars.  It had a large, heavy metal plate welded to the rear, at coupler height, with an equally stout chain, attached at one end to the tractor, and a piece of rebar welded to the other side for the hook on the chain.

To push a car, they backed up to it, and pushed with the plate, with the tractor in reverse.  The driver couldn't see very well, facing the wrong way, but he couldn't see past the car anyway, so it didn't matter.  He had a rear-view mirror, similar to the one on semis, and got hand signals from another worker.

To pull, they backed up until the plate was against the coupler, wrapped the chain around the coupler, and hooked it to the rebar.  Then, very slowly, moved the car.  Very slowly, because the only brakes were on the tractor, and they didn't want too much momentum. 

That would be another scene easy to model, just a tractor, some sheet styrene, and a piece of chain.  No need to attach it to a car, just park it along the siding.

just outside of North Station, Boston, is Boston Sand and Gravel.  They move whole cuts of cars with one of their large bucket loaders.  More than once I've seen the loader laying on its side when the operator couldn't control the cut of cars and they pushed the loader over.
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Re: Weekend Update 12/17/23
« Reply #36 on: December 19, 2023, 09:27:18 PM »
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Tires, cinder blocks, and a dumpster from Sean at Piper Craftsman Kits (N Scale 3D parts/kits).

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Re: Weekend Update 12/17/23
« Reply #37 on: December 19, 2023, 09:45:57 PM »
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Meanwhile here in Maryland - Marley Station Mall is being a grinch

https://www.wbaltv.com/article/marley-station-mall-holiday-train-garden-leaving/46154307

TLDR;

In our case, the mall was going to charge us  fee of $100/week to cover utilities. When we arrived to make the payment, they told us to keep the check; they were donating the space to us.  :)   They are happy to have the store occupied, and we're only 50 feet from the mall Santa photo setup.

However, we are a very small group and do not have the horsepower to be there every day; heck, even each weekend has been tough to get enough support.  We'll tear down sometime after New Years.
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Re: Weekend Update 12/17/23
« Reply #38 on: December 20, 2023, 12:22:44 AM »
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@wm3798 would you know which mall/club that is?   (Just thinking ahead, for the next time I may be in that area on vacation.)

Ed

It's the Grand Strand Model Railroad Club, located in the Myrtle Beach Mall.
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Re: Weekend Update 12/17/23
« Reply #39 on: December 20, 2023, 12:39:26 AM »
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Dupesy:  A common problem.  Folks forget that, just because they can get something moving, it might not be so easy to stop.  As one local put it, when hearing another local bragging about how their big 4WD truck went on snow and ice, "4 wheel go doesn't mean 4 wheel steer, or 4 wheel stop!"

The elevator tracks at most eastern Washington sites are close to level, so runaways aren't a problem.  Just keep the speed slow, and watch the weight.  This elevator only handled a few cars at a time, so didn't have too many problems.
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Re: Weekend Update 12/17/23
« Reply #40 on: December 20, 2023, 04:55:45 AM »
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Tires, cinder blocks, and a dumpster from Sean at Piper Craftsman Kits (N Scale 3D parts/kits).

@chuck geiger , can you share a link? I need truck tires for my sea wall bumpers.

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Re: Weekend Update 12/17/23
« Reply #41 on: December 20, 2023, 08:28:59 AM »
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Re: Weekend Update 12/17/23
« Reply #42 on: December 20, 2023, 09:59:39 AM »
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Debbie here. Liability, and the insurance thereof. Trip-and-fall over a stray power cord. Stuff like that. Club may or may not have the resources to purchase their own policy. They're typically not impossibly expensive, so it's going to depend on the makeup of the club and how they handle mutual expenses.

I just went through this with another avocational interest group I'm sponsoring. We were requesting use of a quasi-public space (a schoolroom, in this instance), and they required insurance. It was $600/yr., but our meetings aren't necessarily catering to the public. Public-access situations might be more costly.

Or they can be added as an additional insured under the Mall's policy.  My Father's club did this for years in the local mall during the holidays.  They had a small GL policy which was minimal cost, but also requested to be listed as an additional insured under the mall since they were there under an invite.
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Re: Weekend Update 12/17/23
« Reply #43 on: December 20, 2023, 01:54:32 PM »
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Yes, I am with Ed - please post more!  That is a very well-done scene.

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Re: Weekend Update 12/17/23
« Reply #44 on: December 20, 2023, 07:52:42 PM »
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Late to the show but here's some of what happened recently:

I have been working on re-designing my various 100 ton flats to reposition the internal weight and change to an integral coupler box.



This shows the most recent tranche in the paint shop. Trying to figure out a good method of supporting the cars for painting.



Family photo: from the rear, a pair of GSH90, the one with the quadcons, EMM-WD, and container is the older design and the one with the 983 and 870A1 is the newer design. Then a NSH90 equipped as a PTTX, and a pair of LTTX with bunks - a JSH90 and up front another NSH90 variant.



Next up is to try the new design around the layout to make sure it works and doesn't cause too many problems. I hope it does work as I have a bunch of the newer design of weights and a PTTX RSH90 in the printer now.