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Rustoleum spray paints for plastic
« on: August 16, 2023, 03:41:38 PM »
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I bought a can of "2X Ultra-Cover SATIN" spray paint for some household project painting metal, and eventually read the label after using it a while and saw it said "Use on plastics". Really? I had an Atlas through girder bridge I wanted to paint black and tried it.... takes a few hours to dry the stickness but it didn't melt the plastic. So I'm wondering if anybody uses these paints for modeling projects, whether buildings, rolling stock, locos, whatever. Looking at their color chart seems like a few can match RR colors. Anybody do this? And how'd it turn out? (pix please)

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Re: Rustoleum spray paints for plastic
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2023, 05:36:28 PM »
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Yes, Rustoleum works well on plastic. It’s thin yet it covers. Works well for airbrushing also.
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Re: Rustoleum spray paints for plastic
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2023, 02:40:05 PM »
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I've used their rattle cans to paint track, bridges, and steel mill buildings with good results.

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Re: Rustoleum spray paints for plastic
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2023, 02:47:23 PM »
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I've used their rattle cans to paint track, bridges, and steel mill buildings with good results.

but they clog fast

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Re: Rustoleum spray paints for plastic
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2023, 03:11:34 PM »
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but they clog fast


Like, after first use.
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Re: Rustoleum spray paints for plastic
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2023, 03:39:24 PM »
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Re: Rustoleum spray paints for plastic
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2023, 06:51:22 PM »
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I haven't experienced that.  One could always clear the nozzle after use.
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Re: Rustoleum spray paints for plastic
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2023, 07:10:04 PM »
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I've been using Montana Cans spray paints for awhile now. I get them at the local art supply store. A great range of colors, and you can get a variety of nozzles for different spray patterns.

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Re: Rustoleum spray paints for plastic
« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2023, 12:22:01 AM »
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I haven't experienced that.  One could always clear the nozzle after use.


I’ve sprayed a lot of paint from Spray Cans in my life.
It’s hard to deny that there aren’t better, more efficient nozzles.
I think it’s easy to take for granted the efficiency and non failure rate of Tamiya, Mr. Surfacer, Testor’s, Pactra and even Krylon has always been good.
I’ve bought cans from Walmart, presumably their brand, for $1.97 a can that can spray their entire contents.
I’ve got a nearly 100% fail rate on Rustoleum cans after initial use.
And that includes all of the precautions…Exhausting upside down, nozzle removal in a lacquer thinner bath, blah, blah.
I can’t buy it anymore.
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Re: Rustoleum spray paints for plastic
« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2023, 03:27:33 AM »
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but they clog fast

Write to their Customer Service dept if you have this problem. I did, and hoped they'd respond. Oh, they did -- with a bag of 25+ brand-new nozzles!!! I can replace the nozzle after every spray job, if need be.  The paint covers evenly and leaves a smooth finish -- just have to let it dry a few hours. Also, spray from a good distance from the model, to get just a misting coat on the item. I like this much better than screwing around with an airbrush, with its long set-up and clean up afterward times.

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Re: Rustoleum spray paints for plastic
« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2023, 07:42:27 AM »
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I like this much better than screwing around with an airbrush, with its long set-up and clean up afterward times.

Really? If you have a paint booth, you can leave the airbrush permanently set up.  As for cleaning, when using "stinky" paints, it takes less than a minute.  And an airbrush gives you so much more control of the spraying process, and unlimited selection of colors (not just what is in the aerosol can you bought).

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Re: Rustoleum spray paints for plastic
« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2023, 01:07:54 AM »
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"if" i had a paint booth .... a air brush is fine if painting a 1/24 cxar or a humongous HO loco or a bazillion copies of the same rr car but when it's one N boxcar with 4 different paint colors on sides and top, using an airbrush means a lot of work. I've used one for a while, but if I can get decent coverage that looks good from a spray can, I'll go that route. 

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Re: Rustoleum spray paints for plastic
« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2023, 09:33:51 AM »
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"if" i had a paint booth .... a air brush is fine if painting a 1/24 cxar or a humongous HO loco or a bazillion copies of the same rr car but when it's one N boxcar with 4 different paint colors on sides and top, using an airbrush means a lot of work. I've used one for a while, but if I can get decent coverage that looks good from a spray can, I'll go that route.

Funny, I look at this in the exact opposite way.  To me a spray can is like a large paint gun spewing out large droplets (volume) of paint at a pressure I cannot control. Basically a fire-hose of paint.  Last time I used a spray can of paint to paint a model was a 1:8 scale Mercedes Benz.

An airbrush to me is like a miniature "scale size" paint gun with fine control of both the paint volume and air pressure.  It also finely atomizes the paint.  It's perfect for painting small items (like detail parts or N scale trains.  When I do paint 1:25 scale model cars I really have to open the airbrush nozzle wide to get sufficient wet point coverage. On the opposite end of the scale, if I'm painting some small detail part that is 1/16" in size or trying to paint some deep crevice in an N scale loco shell, I can dial the air pressure and paint volume to a tight and very fine mist pattern, allowing me to get perfect coverage without the paint flooding the painted area.  We are talking about precision spray painting,  Of course I haven't even mentioned other tasks airbrush excels in (like weathering), but I think you get my point.

Another thing is paint waste.  With a "fire hose" spray pattern from a can, when you paint a small object, most of the spray ends up outside of the model. With an airbrush you have almost no waste.  Paint is expensive.    When painting small items with an airbrush, I can literally just put in few drops of paint in the airbrush.  Spray can? Ever "spritz" will spray out lots of paint, with a very small amount hitting the small object being painted. I often decant spray-can paint just so I can have better control shooting it through the airbrush.

The usefulness and versatility of an airbrush more then make up for what you describe as its negatives.

For full enclosure, I don't have a paint booth either. I have an exhaust fan mounted in a basement chest-high window.  Under the window is my table saw.  The airbrush,its hose, and few accessories are in a drawer to the right of the table saw. Mu air compressor is to the left of the table saw.   When I need to airbrush something I cover the table saw surface with a sheet of brown paper, take the airbrush out of the drawer and connect it up to the compressor. I have the paint in the airbrush jar already thinned and mixed earlier in my workshop (in adjacent finished part of the basement).
Then I commence spraying,  I usually airbrush multiple colors (with a quick flush using lacquer thinner between colors. At the end I do my 1-minute cleanup after the session, and put the airbrush away in the drawer.  it really isn't *THAT* much complicated or time consuming than using a spray can.

I suspect that many who turn their nose at an airbrush have never even try one.
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Re: Rustoleum spray paints for plastic
« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2023, 03:49:20 PM »
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Funny, I look at this in the exact opposite way.  To me a spray can is like a large paint gun spewing out large droplets (volume) of paint at a pressure I cannot control. Basically a fire-hose of paint.  Last time I used a spray can of paint to paint a model was a 1:8 scale Mercedes Benz.

An airbrush to me is like a miniature "scale size" paint gun with fine control of both the paint volume and air pressure.  It also finely atomizes the paint.  It's perfect for painting small items (like detail parts or N scale trains.  When I do paint 1:25 scale model cars I really have to open the airbrush nozzle wide to get sufficient wet point coverage. On the opposite end of the scale, if I'm painting some small detail part that is 1/16" in size or trying to paint some deep crevice in an N scale loco shell, I can dial the air pressure and paint volume to a tight and very fine mist pattern, allowing me to get perfect coverage without the paint flooding the painted area.  We are talking about precision spray painting,  Of course I haven't even mentioned other tasks airbrush excels in (like weathering), but I think you get my point.

Another thing is paint waste.  With a "fire hose" spray pattern from a can, when you paint a small object, most of the spray ends up outside of the model. With an airbrush you have almost no waste.  Paint is expensive.    When painting small items with an airbrush, I can literally just put in few drops of paint in the airbrush.  Spray can? Ever "spritz" will spray out lots of paint, with a very small amount hitting the small object being painted. I often decant spray-can paint just so I can have better control shooting it through the airbrush.

The usefulness and versatility of an airbrush more then make up for what you describe as its negatives.

For full enclosure, I don't have a paint booth either. I have an exhaust fan mounted in a basement chest-high window.  Under the window is my table saw.  The airbrush,its hose, and few accessories are in a drawer to the right of the table saw. Mu air compressor is to the left of the table saw.   When I need to airbrush something I cover the table saw surface with a sheet of brown paper, take the airbrush out of the drawer and connect it up to the compressor. I have the paint in the airbrush jar already thinned and mixed earlier in my workshop (in adjacent finished part of the basement).
Then I commence spraying,  I usually airbrush multiple colors (with a quick flush using lacquer thinner between colors. At the end I do my 1-minute cleanup after the session, and put the airbrush away in the drawer.  it really isn't *THAT* much complicated or time consuming than using a spray can.

I suspect that many who turn their nose at an airbrush have never even try one.

I agree with you 100% Peter @peteski .  Although I use rattle-cans periodically, I've never had a problem using my airbrushes on N-scale models, or on HO scale models, or on O scale models.  My airbrushes offer me options that are simply impossible when applying weathering or when I want a non-detail-hiding light covering coat on my models, or I'm intent on doing a first-class smooth finish on a model for a customer.  Since I DO have a home-made spray booth, I always have at least two airbrushes ready to go and I don't find cleaning them after use to take more than a couple of minutes since I know what to use and how to do it.

Over the past week, I've used 9 different colors in two different airbrushes, painting & weathering a Key Big Boy in both enamel and acrylic paints...and my airbrushes greatly simplify paint application and my compressor setup makes sure that my air pressure is spot-on, the distance from my brush to the model is exactly where I want it, that the spray is exactly like I want it and the paint goes exactly where I want it to...from a broad spray to a very fine thin line...and for some weathering applications, starting with a fine ultra thin line and broadening it as I move it across the side of my model when I'm weathering...something impossible to do with a rattle can.

Both methods have their uses, but airbrushes are an exponential step above rattle cans in both potential finish quality and versatility.

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