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Kato "Rainbow Era" Amtrak
« on: July 13, 2023, 11:04:14 AM »
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Someone mentioned this on another thread. N scale Supply has it up.

https://www.nscalesupply.com/kat/kat-e8-9.html
https://www.nscalesupply.com/kat/kat-passener-4carset.html

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« Last Edit: July 13, 2023, 12:33:32 PM by GaryHinshaw »

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Re: Kato "Rainbow Era" Amtrak
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2023, 11:13:35 AM »
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Someone mentioned this on another thread. N scale Supply has it up.

https://www.nscalesupply.com/kat/kat-e8-9.html
https://www.nscalesupply.com/kat/kat-passener-4carset.html

Jason

Looks like I'll be getting some more Kato passenger cars. Nice!

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Re: Kato "Rainbow Era" Amtrak
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2023, 11:20:52 AM »
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If the do #4316 "Day One" without portholes then I'll can my current back-burner project to model it with a Life-Like unit.
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Re: Kato "Rainbow Era" Amtrak
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2023, 05:42:57 PM »
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If the do #4316 "Day One" without portholes then I'll can my current back-burner project to model it with a Life-Like unit.

It will have the portholes unfortunately.

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Also, I have a passenger train addiction...

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Re: Kato "Rainbow Era" Amtrak
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2023, 06:16:23 PM »
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The 8 car set appears to be a re-issue of car names/numbers as the 1st release. A bit bummed I would have like a different mix of car roadnames like UP etc. At least I can get differently numbers E8's from the Amtrak E8 that came out thenssme time as the 1st rainbow release. Wonder why there's no PC E8 this time? Anyone know the consist of the 1st train that day one painted 4316 pulled it's 1st trip?

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Re: Kato "Rainbow Era" Amtrak
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2023, 06:37:09 PM »
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It will have the portholes unfortunately.
Well, then my project is still on!
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Re: Kato "Rainbow Era" Amtrak
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2023, 09:58:50 PM »
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Can't be "Rainbow Era" if it never operated in Amtrak service.... :facepalm:





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Re: Kato "Rainbow Era" Amtrak
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2023, 10:10:12 PM »
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The 8 car set appears to be a re-issue of car names/numbers as the 1st release. A bit bummed I would have like a different mix of car roadnames like UP etc. At least I can get differently numbers E8's from the Amtrak E8 that came out thenssme time as the 1st rainbow release. Wonder why there's no PC E8 this time? Anyone know the consist of the 1st train that day one painted 4316 pulled it's 1st trip?

This is also annoying for those of us that already had one the two prior 4 car sets and would buy a re-release of the other...notwithstanding the extent that two of the PC cars were apparently never used by Amtrak...

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Re: Kato "Rainbow Era" Amtrak
« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2023, 11:43:53 PM »
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Someone mentioned this on another thread. N scale Supply has it up.

https://www.nscalesupply.com/kat/kat-e8-9.html
https://www.nscalesupply.com/kat/kat-passener-4carset.html

Jason

So it only took sacrificing one E8 to the future PC gods to conjure.


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Re: Kato "Rainbow Era" Amtrak
« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2023, 02:11:01 AM »
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Yes, I was looking forward to a rerelease of their Phase I set, as I missed the first run.  But I don't need the PRR/PC cars, as I never saw one in Amtrak's Empire Builder, so won't be buying the current set.

A strange way to attract customers - "Buy four cars you have no need for to get the four you want.  Be quick, or they'll be gone again!"

Having no actual need for a passenger train, none on my modeled line, I'll pass.
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Re: Kato "Rainbow Era" Amtrak
« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2023, 12:53:02 PM »
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Yes, I was looking forward to a rerelease of their Phase I set, as I missed the first run.  But I don't need the PRR/PC cars, as I never saw one in Amtrak's Empire Builder, so won't be buying the current set.

A strange way to attract customers - "Buy four cars you have no need for to get the four you want.  Be quick, or they'll be gone again!"

Having no actual need for a passenger train, none on my modeled line, I'll pass.

It is two separate 4-car sets, the PRR/PC set and the Phase I set. Or at least was on the first set.

I'm curious if the photos are just place keepers or the actual cars. Not that I need them, as I model the 90s, but I figured when you hear "Rainbow era," you'd get a rainbow of paint schemes. But nothing showing on Kato's page yet, so maybe NSS is just a getting ahead of the game.
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Re: Kato "Rainbow Era" Amtrak
« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2023, 03:16:50 PM »
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Can't be "Rainbow Era" if it never operated in Amtrak service.... :facepalm:

Well the Day 1 E8 didnt last long in that paint scheme, there was still 7 months there left in 1971 that one could assume the cars were possibly used in the first month or so. Unless you have actual scrapping dates.

It is two separate 4-car sets, the PRR/PC set and the Phase I set. Or at least was on the first set.

I'm curious if the photos are just place keepers or the actual cars. Not that I need them, as I model the 90s, but I figured when you hear "Rainbow era," you'd get a rainbow of paint schemes. But nothing showing on Kato's page yet, so maybe NSS is just a getting ahead of the game.

It's not just NSS getting ahead of the game.

My SS above came from the jp1999 email on which I received roughly two weeks ago on July 2nd. Listing the same numbers and set. Just now all 8 in a bookcase according to the note below.

Amtrak(R) `Rainbow Era` Coach Eight Car Set (8-Car Set) (Model Train)
https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10998069

"*This product is an 8-car bookcase of the 106-3521 Penn Central 4-car set and 106-3522 Amtrak Phase I 4-car set sold in 2011, and there is no change in painting or car number.
* Some images are 106-3521 and 106-3522"

Day 1 E8
https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10998075

Bloody Nose E8s
https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10998074
https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10998073
« Last Edit: July 14, 2023, 03:21:57 PM by EspeeGoldenState »
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Re: Kato "Rainbow Era" Amtrak
« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2023, 03:56:45 PM »
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"Day One" was IMO not very attractive livery. I was not even aware of it. I'm glad it didn't last long. 
The subsequent "broken arrow" scheme with orange nose was more attractive.

 Was that loco ex. PC?  That would explain why it was black.
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Re: Kato "Rainbow Era" Amtrak
« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2023, 04:04:32 PM »
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Well the Day 1 E8 didnt last long in that paint scheme, there was still 7 months there left in 1971 that one could assume the cars were possibly used in the first month or so. Unless you have actual scrapping dates.

It's not just NSS getting ahead of the game.

My SS above came from the jp1999 email on which I received roughly two weeks ago on July 2nd. Listing the same numbers and set. Just now all 8 in a bookcase according to the note below.

Amtrak(R) `Rainbow Era` Coach Eight Car Set (8-Car Set) (Model Train)
https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10998069

"*This product is an 8-car bookcase of the 106-3521 Penn Central 4-car set and 106-3522 Amtrak Phase I 4-car set sold in 2011, and there is no change in painting or car number.
* Some images are 106-3521 and 106-3522"

Day 1 E8
https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10998075

Bloody Nose E8s
https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10998074
https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10998073

The lack of a date in 1971 also leaves the possibility that they were removed from revenue service and/or scrapped prior to Amtrak...

Even if Kato does have information that can reconcile Amtrak service with those captions, the 8 car set is also a poor choice for anyone that already bought one of the two prior 4 packs from the prior release and is looking for the other...

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Re: Kato "Rainbow Era" Amtrak
« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2023, 04:14:58 PM »
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"Day One" was IMO not very attractive livery. I was not even aware of it. I'm glad it didn't last long. 
The subsequent "broken arrow" scheme with orange nose was more attractive.

 Was that loco ex. PC?  That would explain why it was black.
Contrarily, I've always liked that scheme, and disliked the red-nose+pointless-arrow scheme.  It was indeed an ex-PC (originally PRR, I think) unit.
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