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Re: Budd Smooth-side Domes from Lowell Smith
« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2023, 04:37:59 PM »
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This is another car that comes up in the live chats. He has indicated that he would love to do it if there was enough interest and having enough successful other projects to help support the costs. The big issue with this car is that it is pretty  much limited to one road versus other dome types that can be used for many. RS is probably the best chance for making this car commercially.There was someone who had a Shapeways 3D print, but it is no longer available.

Why will  nobody make an SP 3/4 dome car ? ?
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Re: Budd Smooth-side Domes from Lowell Smith
« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2023, 02:42:12 AM »
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I want one in undec. I'll have to email him to see if he'll do it as an undec car also

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Re: Budd Smooth-side Domes from Lowell Smith
« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2023, 10:20:54 AM »
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This is another car that comes up in the live chats. He has indicated that he would love to do it if there was enough interest and having enough successful other projects to help support the costs. The big issue with this car is that it is pretty  much limited to one road versus other dome types that can be used for many. RS is probably the best chance for making this car commercially.There was someone who had a Shapeways 3D print, but it is no longer available.

Fuel for the SP 3/4 dome fire -
SP Silver/Tomato
SP Yellow
SP Daylight
SP Lark (why not?)
Amtrak
Canadian Pacific
KCS Panama Canal
Aberdeen Carolina & Western

These would use the same 8'6" wheelbase Outside Swing Hanger disc brake truck used under the NP/GN domes...

If the NSE Rio Grande/Ski Train Domes can be used as an indicator, there would be a market.

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Re: Budd Smooth-side Domes from Lowell Smith
« Reply #18 on: June 16, 2023, 10:22:07 PM »
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I would be in for every SP paint scheme offered on the 3/4 domes. (Included Lark!)
I think they are unique enough to appeal to more than just the SP modellers, just like the full domes.

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Re: Budd Smooth-side Domes from Lowell Smith
« Reply #19 on: June 16, 2023, 11:45:20 PM »
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Fuel for the SP 3/4 dome fire -
SP Silver/Tomato
SP Yellow
SP Daylight
SP Lark (why not?)
Amtrak
Canadian Pacific
KCS Panama Canal
Aberdeen Carolina & Western

These would use the same 8'6" wheelbase Outside Swing Hanger disc brake truck used under the NP/GN domes...

If the NSE Rio Grande/Ski Train Domes can be used as an indicator, there would be a market.

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Not that there would probably be a desire for it, but there was the Minnesota Zephyr paint too.

http://trainweb.org/DOMEmain/picSP3604h.jpg

I know I'd go broke on probably SP paint scheme as well. Possibly the Amtrak too.
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Re: Budd Smooth-side Domes from Lowell Smith
« Reply #20 on: June 17, 2023, 02:09:07 AM »
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I might buy one, in Amtrak, as I did see AMT 9374 in Pasco once.  A real oddity, as the EB usually had the ex-GN full domes.

I have reserved the SP&S (EB) and NP pair.  When he does the BSB cars I'll order a set, as most were BSB by Amtrak.

I asked, and he said that he does plan to do GN 1320 in BN Green and White, with GN lettering, "eventually". 
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Re: Budd Smooth-side Domes from Lowell Smith
« Reply #21 on: August 04, 2023, 12:37:24 PM »
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Figured that I’d kick this topic back up as it appears to be the same run versus a new topic: Lowell has announced a two-pack of big sky blue domes, as well as a single BSB dome for a total of three different GN road numbers, and a pair of Alaska domes as well.

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Re: Budd Smooth-side Domes from Lowell Smith
« Reply #22 on: August 05, 2023, 03:12:10 AM »
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And I ordered all three GN cars this evening.

Looking back at the list of schemes for the SP domes, the GN full domes came in about that many:
Empire Builder
Big Sky Blue
GN Green and White
BN Green and White
Amtrak Phase I (at least)
Illinois Central (Iowa Pacific? I saw the car in Huntington, WV, but not close enough to read the owner)
American Orient Express
American Railway Explorer
Grand Canyon Railway
Holland America
Empire Builder (Iowa Pacific sublettering)
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Re: Budd Smooth-side Domes from Lowell Smith
« Reply #23 on: August 05, 2023, 08:50:22 AM »
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Some of them (edit- the domes Lowell Smith is offering) definitely wore Amtrak phase 1, 2, and 3 paint. 

Pictures here : http://hebners.net/Amtrak/amtDOME.html

Here's a link to phase 2: http:/http://hebners.net/Amtrak/amtDOME/amt9465.jpg
« Last Edit: August 05, 2023, 03:50:38 PM by nickelplate759 »
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Re: Budd Smooth-side Domes from Lowell Smith
« Reply #24 on: August 05, 2023, 12:11:35 PM »
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And I ordered all three GN cars this evening.

Looking back at the list of schemes for the SP domes, the GN full domes came in about that many:
Empire Builder
Big Sky Blue
GN Green and White
BN Green and White
Amtrak Phase I (at least)
Illinois Central (Iowa Pacific? I saw the car in Huntington, WV, but not close enough to read the owner)
American Orient Express
American Railway Explorer
Grand Canyon Railway
Holland America
Empire Builder (Iowa Pacific sublettering)

There is also the BN Glacier View, which would need some modifications from the stock car, but that adds BN green and executive, and BNSF

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Re: Budd Smooth-side Domes from Lowell Smith
« Reply #25 on: August 05, 2023, 01:51:45 PM »
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There is also the BN Glacier View, which would need some modifications from the stock car, but that adds BN green and executive, and BNSF

Technically that in itself is 5 different versions.

BN Green and White
https://www.fobnr.org/old-site/bncarlist/passenger/bna24b.htm

BN "Executive" Creme and Green
https://www.fobnr.org/old-site/bncarlist/passenger/bna24c.htm

BNSF Plain Silver still as BNA 24
https://www.fobnr.org/old-site/bncarlist/passenger/bna24f.htm

BNSF "Wagon Wheel" now as BNSF 30
http://www.gngoat.org/mt_trip6.jpg

BNSF Swoosh
https://www.flickr.com/photos/zheistand/6057485878
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Re: Budd Smooth-side Domes from Lowell Smith
« Reply #26 on: August 05, 2023, 02:06:48 PM »
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And I ordered all three GN cars this evening.

Looking back at the list of schemes for the SP domes, the GN full domes came in about that many:
Empire Builder
Big Sky Blue
GN Green and White
BN Green and White
Amtrak Phase I (at least)
Illinois Central (Iowa Pacific? I saw the car in Huntington, WV, but not close enough to read the owner)
American Orient Express
American Railway Explorer
Grand Canyon Railway
Holland America
Empire Builder (Iowa Pacific sublettering)

Amtrak's Ocean View alone wore probably every Phase of Amtrak paint.
P1 - http://trainweb.org/DOMEmain/picGN1391l.jpg
P2 - link in previous post above
9300 Auto Train P3 - http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2318431
Adirondack/Cardinal wrap - https://www.railpictures.net/photo/653648/  (multiple versions)
P4 - http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3178408
P5 - https://www.flickr.com/photos/jacksnell707/5497885586/in/set-72157626071086935/
P3B - https://flic.kr/p/aNA93i

It's been sold and now wears Western Maryland inspired scheme.
https://www.trains.com/trn/news-reviews/news-wire/western-maryland-scenic-now-operating-amtraks-last-dome-car/
« Last Edit: August 05, 2023, 02:10:16 PM by EspeeGoldenState »
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Re: Budd Smooth-side Domes from Lowell Smith
« Reply #27 on: August 06, 2023, 12:51:28 AM »
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Ike and Espee:  I Knew about the Glacier View as an Executive car, but not that it's had that many schemes.  I didn't include it only because of the modifications, suspecting that Lowell wouldn't want to do it.  If he makes the base car, I wouldn't be surprised if someone 3D prints a conversion kit.

I didn't know that Ocean View had that many schemes after Phase I.  The Superliners took over western trains about the time we moved to eastern Kentucky, and I've seldom seen a passenger train of any kind since then

So far we have at least 17 different schemes on these cars, spanning almost 70 years, and much of the US.  That should keep sales going for years.

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Re: Budd Smooth-side Domes from Lowell Smith
« Reply #28 on: August 10, 2023, 11:41:16 AM »
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     Beautiful models  of the SP dome cars are coming from Rapido Trains in HO. Maybe they can  be persuaded to do them in N. Nate Goodman (Nato).

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Re: Budd Smooth-side Domes from Lowell Smith
« Reply #29 on: August 10, 2023, 11:58:52 AM »
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   While Lowell's Car is very nice.  Northern Pacific's last NCL diners were SLAB Sided BUDD Cars. Nate Goodman. (Nato).