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Intermountain N scale?
« on: May 21, 2023, 04:05:14 AM »
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Are they still making stuff? Go their website and there's lots of stuff listed but very little being made.
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Re: Intermountain N scale?
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2023, 05:12:50 AM »
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This has been discussed to death if you search the various sub-forums.


https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?topic=51650.0
https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?topic=54938.0
https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?topic=33900.0
https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?topic=55739.0


But as long as it's been brought up again.  If someone goes to a show that IMRC is attending, ask them why the f*ck they dropped all the 40's AAR boxcars from their product list?

Notice on this https://www.intermountain-railway.com/newsncomingsoon.html that there are none.  Not even in the undecorated section.  They pretty much had a lock on that market and they're giving it up.


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Re: Intermountain N scale?
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2023, 07:04:26 AM »
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Don't they have the tooling for the Red Caboose X29 boxcar as well?

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Re: Intermountain N scale?
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2023, 09:11:44 AM »
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But as long as it's been brought up again.  If someone goes to a show that IMRC is attending, ask them why the f*ck they dropped all the 40's AAR boxcars from their product list?

I wanted to ask them about future runs of them at the Springfield show but I didn't get a chance to talk to them. They had only 1 guy there and he was busy chatting with someone while I stopped by. In fact that's a common occurrence there; the staff who attend the show are always preoccupied with socializing with people they know.

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Re: Intermountain N scale?
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2023, 07:55:13 PM »
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There have been some complaints about zirmac rot on their locomotives  None of mine have shown that.  I did sell off most of my IM power several years past (for a different reason), but I do still have some FTs, F-7s and F-3s.  I never did buy any of their other power; only F-units.  Perhaps they do not want to issue any more power until they can be certain that the problem has been addressed.

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Re: Intermountain N scale?
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2023, 09:17:08 PM »
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They have F units "queued for production" and were saying at one point they would be delivered this summer.  Several others are "taking reservations."  And IM personnel have said that "taking reservations" no longer means "for the next decade, then canceled." But until they actually begin to deliver stuff on a predictable timetable, we'll still have no idea if we'll see any of these products in our lifetime.
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Re: Intermountain N scale?
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2023, 11:06:43 PM »
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Don't they have the tooling for the Red Caboose X29 boxcar as well?

I think that went to FVM?  I know I bought a lot of X29 parts from FVM a year or so (or two) ago.  So maybe Scaletrains has it?
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Re: Intermountain N scale?
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2023, 11:22:44 PM »
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I think that went to FVM?  I know I bought a lot of X29 parts from FVM a year or so (or two) ago.  So maybe Scaletrains has it?

Matt kept the non FVM tooling, going to be sold under the Scale America line

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Re: Intermountain N scale?
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2023, 08:35:51 AM »
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I think that went to FVM?  I know I bought a lot of X29 parts from FVM a year or so (or two) ago.  So maybe Scaletrains has it?

FVM still produce the unimate couplers, have not seen hide nor hair of any the freight cars.

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Re: Intermountain N scale?
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2023, 10:30:24 PM »
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I asked about the 40' boxcars.   Not enough reservations for the road names that were proposed.  So they cancelled that project, because there were other projects that did have the reservations needed to go into production.   That doesn't mean you'll never see that model again, just not right now.

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Re: Intermountain N scale?
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2023, 07:31:14 AM »
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I asked about the 40' boxcars.   Not enough reservations for the road names that were proposed.  So they cancelled that project, because there were other projects that did have the reservations needed to go into production.   That doesn't mean you'll never see that model again, just not right now.

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Thanks for the update!
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Re: Intermountain N scale?
« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2023, 01:44:58 PM »
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They fooled me once by announcing Chateau Martin milk reefers that I did reserve and waited for 5+ years before they finally came out and cancelled them. I no longer pre-order ANYTHING from them. I would guess I'm not the only one who feels this way and that could explain why they aren't getting enough pre-orders. If they DO produce something that I want and it is actually available, I will buy it, but otherwise I'm not interested in their vaporware cars...
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Re: Intermountain N scale?
« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2023, 02:57:18 PM »
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They fooled me once by announcing Chateau Martin milk reefers that I did reserve and waited for 5+ years before they finally came out and cancelled them. I no longer pre-order ANYTHING from them. I would guess I'm not the only one who feels this way and that could explain why they aren't getting enough pre-orders. If they DO produce something that I want and it is actually available, I will buy it, but otherwise I'm not interested in their vaporware cars...

I reserved the wine cars also. Funny thing is , I did not reserve any of the last run of the 10k tank cars but I bought all of them, that’s right , a dealer reserved them and I bought all of the numbers of all the varieties. I think it was some 60 cars all told. But I was able to avoid buying them in one group, instead I got them at a rate that was inline with my own cash flow.

I got smoked when BLW was taking reservations for the FVM Hiawatha stuff. Instead of the models coming at a rate I could absorb, my card was charged $3500.00 or so at once. That was a rough month because of it. I was admiring my new models without the cash for a dinner of Mac and cheese.

I don’t think it should be the end consumer reserving stuff. I think it should be dealers. Between me  and J we reserved maybe 6 of them , whereas a dealer could reserve them in the hundreds. I don’t know what the minimums are but it would be helpful to know .

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Re: Intermountain N scale?
« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2023, 03:07:52 PM »
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The upside to having no transition era equipment up for pre-order is that someone else gets to be the guinea pig for a change.  They have enough stuff up on their current preorder pages to account for the next 5 years of production (or 25, if they keep the meager pace of the last 5 years). So, if they have delivered all that, and 5 years from now market a boxcar, if I'm still alive, I might order one.
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Re: Intermountain N scale?
« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2023, 09:47:44 PM »
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I just wish IM had confidence in their cars, especially their older tooling that they have done multiple runs on, like the 4450 covered hoppers, they have done so many runs, they should be able to easily estimate how many of each road name will sell. Maybe if they just sucked it up and did a few runs without preorders, and watched the cars sell out, people would be willing to put down preorders with them again. But when they ask for preorders and we're 5+ years later with the only update being we are cancelling this project due to lack of preorders, it makes many of us leery of preordering.

I could use a couple of the 40' cars for kitbash fodder, but currently my project list is way too long, so I can hold off.