I've had it with Rustoleum Rattle Cans

[C855B]

... I suspect that the ability paint upside down is to serve a major consumer of spray paint- taggers.

Ha!

I've frequently been in "general usage" (NOT model RR) situations where keeping the can relatively vertical results in contortions that interrupt the spray and make for an uneven if not splotchy job. Vehicles, for example, where you're needing to spray underneath after scraping off the rust scale.

[peteski]

I suspect most taggers leave their "art" on vertical surfaces. No need to spray upside down.

[C855B]

I suspect most taggers leave their "art" on vertical surfaces. No need to spray upside down.

If you've seen a "professional" tagger at work, you'll notice they pay no mind to can orientation. Artist-grade aerosols (at Dick Blick, among other outlets) have the angle-independent spray valve, and Rustoleum simply adopted the already-developed tech.

[Scottl]

If you've seen a "professional" tagger at work, you'll notice they pay no mind to can orientation. Artist-grade aerosols (at Dick Blick, among other outlets) have the angle-independent spray valve, and Rustoleum simply adopted the already-developed tech.

Yes, I've watched a lot of the tagger youtube videos and this is what I meant. 

[JeffB]

This subject seems to bring positive and negative responses on other forums (usually negative).  I never use that stuff myself.

http://www.modelcarsmag.com/forums/topic/181168-rust-oleum-paint/

http://www.modelcarsmag.com/forums/topic/178173-rustoleum-paints-are-terrible/

Lots of good and some conflicting info there Peteski...

  It's discouraging to read that some guys have been having issues with Tamiya spray primer.  Apparently the formula was changed at some point.  I'm glad the stuff I stockpiled seems to work OK, at least on 3D printed parts and the miniature war gaming stuff my younger two boys paint with it.

  One of the more interesting bits of info was from a guy that thins an enamel with a small amount of lacquer thinner and gets really great results from it. 

  It's also good to read that I was not alone when having issues with Rustoleum primer being tacky for days after spraying. 

  A side note...  Not sure if I read it here, but someone, on some forum or list I'm on suggested using Napa brand flat grey primer.  Said it worked great, as good as or better than Tamiya primer, though I don't recall any more details.  Certainly cheaper/a better value if it works just as well.

Edit: Apparently the Napa primer referenced above is part of the Duplicolor brand, which a few of the guys in the threads Peteski provided swear by.

JB

[peteski]

You're welcome Jeff.
I figured it would be good to include experiences of more modelers using those paints (and some off-topic excursions into other paint brands).  I sometimes cut my organic-solvent-based enamels (like old Testors) with lacquer thinner for airbrushing.

[peteski]

If you've seen a "professional" tagger at work, you'll notice they pay no mind to can orientation. Artist-grade aerosols (at Dick Blick, among other outlets) have the angle-independent spray valve, and Rustoleum simply adopted the already-developed tech.

Thanks for the education.
The only aerosol I use with angle-independent spray valve is the foaming bathroom cleaner (like the Scrubbing Bubbles, or the generic versions).  That feature comes in handy when spraying in the toilet bowl!   

[John]