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Re: ESM N wheels are in stock
« Reply #30 on: March 05, 2023, 03:43:09 PM »
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Please don’t conflate your track issues as a product problem. You’ve already stated on another thread that the trackwork of the modular layout you ran the cars on was flawed. Don’t misrepresent your previous postings on this thread.

A lot of people I'm sure run on modular layouts, I was just curious to see if anyone else has ran ESM wheels on modular layouts.

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Re: ESM N wheels are in stock
« Reply #31 on: March 05, 2023, 04:23:12 PM »
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A lot of people I'm sure run on modular layouts, I was just curious to see if anyone else has ran ESM wheels on modular layouts.

Then state your query as such.  That is very different than insinuating that that wheels under-performed in general, and you'd get a lot more constructive feedback if you simply asked.

As an aside, the wheels weren't designed to operate in Rapido passenger equipment, Kato passenger equipment, or any equipment requiring a split-axle design.  These wheels have been used on all ESM X65 and X72 releases, and all but the first X58 release which utilized the very similar-designed BLMA wheelset.  It's a given that some people are running those models on modular layouts.
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Re: ESM N wheels are in stock
« Reply #32 on: March 05, 2023, 04:39:48 PM »
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Packs of 60 would be great. I'm still debating whether to replace the wheels in my BLMA trucks with ESM wheelsets but they are definitely my go to for any MTL cars.

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Re: ESM N wheels are in stock
« Reply #33 on: March 05, 2023, 05:44:38 PM »
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I would recommend leaving your BLMA wheels in place.  The ESM wheels are "cousins" to the BLMA wheels and they perform similarly.
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Re: ESM N wheels are in stock
« Reply #34 on: March 05, 2023, 08:46:50 PM »
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Glad to see we have some good wheel set choices after a prolonged drought. Thank you for taking a business risk with these, Bryan. A bulk pack would be most welcome.
I'm not seeing any pics in this thread, would anyone mind posting? I'm particularly interested in the wheel thickness (dimension?) and face profile.
If this was posted elsewhere, I missed it and apologize.
Thanks, Otto

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Re: ESM N wheels are in stock
« Reply #35 on: March 05, 2023, 09:07:05 PM »
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I don’t have the wheel thickness off hand, but here are two pics that show the wheel faces.




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Re: ESM N wheels are in stock
« Reply #36 on: March 05, 2023, 10:39:09 PM »
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A lot of people I'm sure run on modular layouts, I was just curious to see if anyone else has ran ESM wheels on modular layouts.

Yes, no issues since I've outlawed the use the of Kato #4s. And modules need to, at the least, have a non visible shelf between tracks. My G26s and the cars I've modified with ESMs have never given me issues over NTrak shows.
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Re: ESM N wheels are in stock
« Reply #37 on: March 06, 2023, 12:30:08 AM »
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I don’t have the wheel thickness off hand, but here are two pics that show the wheel faces.





Looking good, Bryan, thank you. Just eyeballing here, they look to be about thick?
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Re: ESM N wheels are in stock
« Reply #38 on: March 06, 2023, 08:08:07 AM »
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Otto,

Here’s a photo from the ESM packaging.

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Re: ESM N wheels are in stock
« Reply #39 on: March 06, 2023, 09:46:35 AM »
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I would recommend leaving your BLMA wheels in place.  The ESM wheels are "cousins" to the BLMA wheels and they perform similarly.

Thanks for the advice. Do you happen to know if the metal wheels on the new Atlas cars (ex: PS-1 boxcar) are also the same as the BLMA ones?

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Re: ESM N wheels are in stock
« Reply #40 on: March 06, 2023, 09:59:23 AM »
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Apologies for double posting, but @bbussey have you ever considered designing painting jig for your wheelsets, for example as a shapeways print? I'd certainly buy one if it works well.

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Re: ESM N wheels are in stock
« Reply #41 on: March 06, 2023, 10:45:15 AM »
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Thanks for the advice. Do you happen to know if the metal wheels on the new Atlas cars (ex: PS-1 boxcar) are also the same as the BLMA ones?

I can't verify but am pretty sure they are

I find it odd they are not putting metal wheels on everything at this point, especially in the master line.  I grabbed a few x72 boxcars yesterday, and they still have plastic wheels  :RUEffinKiddingMe:
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Re: ESM N wheels are in stock
« Reply #42 on: March 06, 2023, 10:46:33 AM »
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Thanks for the advice. Do you happen to know if the metal wheels on the new Atlas cars (ex: PS-1 boxcar) are also the same as the BLMA ones?

Yes I do know.  They are not.  They have a decent profile.  But they are steel wheels, which interfere with uncoupling magnets if you have them.  The good news is that they have a .540" axle length exactly, so all three of the premium wheels (BLMA, ESM, FVM) are drop-in replacements.

Apologies for double posting, but @bbussey have you ever considered designing painting jig for your wheelsets, for example as a shapeways print? I'd certainly buy one if it works well.

Oooh no ... it's hard enough getting the wheels to market!  :D
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Re: ESM N wheels are in stock
« Reply #43 on: March 06, 2023, 08:59:24 PM »
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Otto,

Here’s a photo from the ESM packaging.

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Thanks Jim. I still interested in the wheel thickness dimension, for comparison purposes, if anyone has it.
Thanks, Otto

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Re: ESM N wheels are in stock
« Reply #44 on: March 06, 2023, 09:10:49 PM »
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Thanks Jim. I still interested in the wheel thickness dimension, for comparison purposes, if anyone has it.
Thanks, Otto
I measure 1.68mm /.0665” wheel face to wheel back on the ESM.
FVM measures 1.5mn /.595”
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