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Re: Mishap with Strasburg 475
« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2022, 05:57:13 AM »
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John, your reply is perfect. I get it and by the time the engineer knew what was happening it was over.   They have a machine shop and can rebuild her and make new items. As a 33 year machinist I know it can be done. No she won't be original parts, especially her face but with some work she'll be back soon enough.     I retire in a few years. My plan is to work in that shop part time to keep me semi busy other then staying home and working on the layout the layout 24/7.

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Re: Mishap with Strasburg 475
« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2022, 07:17:54 AM »
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John, your reply is perfect. I get it and by the time the engineer knew what was happening it was over.   They have a machine shop and can rebuild her and make new items. As a 33 year machinist I know it can be done. No she won't be original parts, especially her face but with some work she'll be back soon enough.     I retire in a few years. My plan is to work in that shop part time to keep me semi busy other then staying home and working on the layout the layout 24/7.

Thanks .. The trend to pass judgement isn't new - but the internet amplifies the echo chamber.  It's obvious to me what happened here - human error.  I suspect the crew & MOW team knows more than anyone the impact of the accident.  Fortunately no one was hurt.  The equipment can be fixed and procedures put in place to prevent future incidents like this. One possible fix is to slightly modify the approach into paradise using the track the loco runs around on - that way they could avoid the diverging route ..

We've all received second chances in life after a screw up. I've had some real significant ones but that is life .. “If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her”  John 8
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Re: Mishap with Strasburg 475
« Reply #17 on: November 07, 2022, 03:45:54 PM »
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475 is out of the shop and pulling trains again ..


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Re: Mishap with Strasburg 475
« Reply #18 on: November 07, 2022, 08:32:50 PM »
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Great post on what went into the repair.

http://www.rypn.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=333009#p333009

That type of thing makes RYPN still worth looking at.

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Re: Mishap with Strasburg 475
« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2022, 09:44:59 PM »
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Repaired already? Wow!!

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Re: Mishap with Strasburg 475
« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2022, 11:25:37 PM »
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I noticed the simple switcher pilot on the repaired 475 as well.

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Re: Mishap with Strasburg 475
« Reply #21 on: November 08, 2022, 12:15:06 AM »
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You can see the weld marks, but it says this is 120 hours after the hit so I'd say that is pretty good.
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=5662017050523327&set=a.286610084730744

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Re: Mishap with Strasburg 475
« Reply #22 on: November 08, 2022, 09:57:42 AM »
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Great post on what went into the repair.

http://www.rypn.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=333009#p333009

That type of thing makes RYPN still worth looking at.

Fantastic commentary by someone from the Railway (Strasburg)...  Shows incredible support for their staff, something you want when you're involved with an organization.

My wife and I hope to retire to PA (Lancaster area) and I'd love to volunteer to work here (if they'll have me, I'll be a relatively young (58ish) retiree)...  Sounds like a first class outfit to work for!

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Re: Mishap with Strasburg 475
« Reply #23 on: November 08, 2022, 03:56:26 PM »
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 It looks like the smokebox door hasn't been painted yet. That's why you can see the brass from the brazing and the shiny spots from grinding and sanding the steel on the door.
 I think once it's painted it will look a lot better.

 Richard Webster

You can see the weld marks, but it says this is 120 hours after the hit so I'd say that is pretty good.
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=5662017050523327&set=a.286610084730744
Richard looking at MP 242 when working for the FEC Rwy. Retired now.

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Re: Mishap with Strasburg 475
« Reply #24 on: November 08, 2022, 06:31:15 PM »
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I didn't realize that brazing with brass could be used for parts exposed to heat  I would have thought that they would use welding.  But I'm not an expert in the field.
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Re: Mishap with Strasburg 475
« Reply #25 on: November 08, 2022, 07:32:30 PM »
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I didn't realize that brazing with brass could be used for parts exposed to heat  I would have thought that they would use welding.  But I'm not an expert in the field.

I didn't think you could weld cast iron....  Not knowing exactly what brazing is, I didn't question the experts..  :D

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazing

However brazzers is something completely different.  :drool:

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Re: Mishap with Strasburg 475
« Reply #26 on: November 08, 2022, 09:33:15 PM »
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I didn't think you could weld cast iron....  Not knowing exactly what brazing is, I didn't question the experts..  :D

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazing

However brazzers is something completely different.  :drool:

~Ian

Lol.

I've learned all about brazing thanks to Keith Rucker.

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Re: Mishap with Strasburg 475
« Reply #27 on: November 09, 2022, 07:51:05 AM »
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I didn't realize that brazing with brass could be used for parts exposed to heat  I would have thought that they would use welding.  But I'm not an expert in the field.
i use brazing to repair exhaust manifolds on a regular basis .. [old grain trucks], it works a little better if you heat up the manifold first though ..

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Re: Mishap with Strasburg 475
« Reply #28 on: November 09, 2022, 10:45:50 AM »
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A follow up article: https://www.trains.com/trn/news-reviews/news-wire/strasburg-details-96-hour-repair-to-engine-no-475/

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The result is a door with visible spiderweb-like scars where the sections were rejoined. Zeigler addressed the question of why those braze marks weren‘t ground down to restore a smooth appearance: “I elected not to have them do that,” he said, “to leave it as a ‘witness mark’ to remind our crews” of the need for vigilance.

I like that!

Do we think she'll pickup the nickname "Scarface"?

As far as brazing, check out Keith Rucker's channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/KeithRuckerVintageMachineryorg

Keith has done a bunch of brazing videos if anyone is curious: https://www.youtube.com/c/KeithRuckerVintageMachineryorg/search?query=brazing

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Re: Mishap with Strasburg 475
« Reply #29 on: November 09, 2022, 10:58:12 AM »
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The result is a door with visible spiderweb-like scars where the sections were rejoined. Zeigler addressed the question of why those braze marks weren‘t ground down to restore a smooth appearance: “I elected not to have them do that,” he said, “to leave it as a ‘witness mark’ to remind our crews” of the need for vigilance.

Should we do that when we do surgery on our models?   :trollface: