Intermountain GP10s canceled

[kc9jts]

https://www.intermountain-railway.com/newsncomingsoon.html


I hate to say it but I am not surprised.  Oh well, my wallet is a few hundred dollars safer.

[mu26aeh]

I think this is more a sign people do not trust Intermountain enough to do a pre-order than it is a lack of interest in the GP 10.  I'm still waiting on the Trinity 3230's that I pre-ordered 7 years ago, they've yet to get to the production phase.

[oakcreekco]

https://www.intermountain-railway.com/newsncomingsoon.html


I hate to say it but I am not surprised.  Oh well, my wallet is a few hundred dollars safer.

My wallet is always safe if it says "Intermountain."

I've had enough with these folks. 😂

[TrainCat2]

I think this is more a sign people do not trust Intermountain enough to do a pre-order than it is a lack of interest in the GP 10.  I'm still waiting on the Trinity 3230's that I pre-ordered 7 years ago, they've yet to get to the production phase.

The status for the FT's and F3's have been "Confirmed For Production" for a looooong time. I would love to get the B&O FT sets.

[RockGp40]

In other news, they are releasing new 4750s!

[signalmaintainer]

I think this is more a sign people do not trust Intermountain enough to do a pre-order than it is a lack of interest in the GP 10.

That's an interesting comment on IM, and it's a comment that has merit, I think. And I'm someone who's never been tempted to pre-order anything from IM. Bluford Shops, yes; IM, nope.

[thomasjmdavis]

The status for the FT's and F3's have been "Confirmed For Production" for a looooong time. I would love to get the B&O FT sets.

Yes, given that they have the tooling, we might have expected the production to take less time than it took EMD to build the real ones.

[TrainCat2]

That's an interesting comment on IM, and it's a comment that has merit, I think. And I'm someone who's never been tempted to pre-order anything from IM. Bluford Shops, yes; IM, nope.

Made my first preorder with BLI for the latest run of B&O quad hoppers earlier this year. They arrived when promised.

[Doug W]

My wallet is always safe if it says "Intermountain."

I've had enough with these folks. %uD83D%uDE02

Disappointing.

I'm still waiting for the second run of the SD45-2, which was announced about 12 years ago (it's so long ago that I can't remember). I cancelled my per-order a couple of years after the announcement and won't commit to an Intermountain pre-order again.

Interestingly, I am sure that that the 45-2 had specific delivery dates earlier this year, but it seems to have slipped back to 'Confirmed for Production' again. Whatever. I won't hold my breath to see it this side of 2030.

Gotta deliver if you want the business guys. It's that simple.

Doug

[oakcreekco]

Disappointing.

I'm still waiting for the second run of the SD45-2, which was announced about 12 years ago (it's so long ago that I can't remember). I cancelled my per-order a couple of years after the announcement and won't commit to an Intermountain pre-order again.

Interestingly, I am sure that that the 45-2 had specific delivery dates earlier this year, but it seems to have slipped back to 'Confirmed for Production' again. Whatever. I won't hold my breath to see it this side of 2030.

Gotta deliver if you want the business guys. It's that simple.

Doug

Yes it was being a D&RGW guy.

I jumped heavily into the Tunnel Motors. The honeymoon didn't last long. Sold the basket load off quickly for all the usual reasons that plague what could have been a good model.

Got to deliver, and offer consistently top quality at today's pricing.

That's not asking too much if a company wants my $$$$

[Rossford Yard]

I'm not sure this is news, other than maybe they never officially cancelled it.

I blame myself.  I never pre-ordered, but did see IM at several train shows and assured them I would be in for at least 3, in all their ugliest versions of the IC and even an Iowa Interstate, so several could tool around my layout.  I guess they didn't take me at my word, LOL.

Along with other recent discussions, I think it means that the market for ugly ducklings and regionally specific low proto count locos is still not mature, at least in N.  We tend to think they will sell out of everything they make, but obviously, these kind of projects have a stronger possibility of NOT panning out for them.

The shame is IM was always the most open about actual sales numbers, i.e., over 250,000 covered hoppers sold in both HO and N, 8,000 of their N scale 50 flat cars, and a few others I have on a sheet of paper on some old storage device.  I think they said they needed 300 orders for any road name to move ahead with production, and obviously, they didn't get that.

[EspeeGoldenState]

I'm honestly surprised the Dash 9s haven't be cancelled too, considering they are behind the ball.

Doesn't look like anything Trainworx any time soon either.

I know I ordered my ABBA set of SSW FTs over 3 1/2 years ago and contemplated a SP AC-12.

[kscessandriver]

I'm not sure this is news, other than maybe they never officially cancelled it.

I blame myself.  I never pre-ordered, but did see IM at several train shows and assured them I would be in for at least 3, in all their ugliest versions of the IC and even an Iowa Interstate, so several could tool around my layout.  I guess they didn't take me at my word, LOL.

Along with other recent discussions, I think it means that the market for ugly ducklings and regionally specific low proto count locos is still not mature, at least in N.  We tend to think they will sell out of everything they make, but obviously, these kind of projects have a stronger possibility of NOT panning out for them.

The shame is IM was always the most open about actual sales numbers, i.e., over 250,000 covered hoppers sold in both HO and N, 8,000 of their N scale 50 flat cars, and a few others I have on a sheet of paper on some old storage device.  I think they said they needed 300 orders for any road name to move ahead with production, and obviously, they didn't get that.

I mean, ScaleTrains ran the C39-8, which was a niche odd ball unit. I could see some other company picking up the GP-10 now, I certainly hope they do. As long as it's not Broadway...

[squirrelhunter]

I really wish IM would either sell out to someone who has the working capital to tool up the occasional "flyer" like a GP10 or at least stop announcing items just to "Stake a Claim" in case they turn out to be a sleeper hit.

I bet ScaleTrains would print money with modern Trinity (and clones) 2 bay hoppers- they are everywhere in sand and cement service and pretty much every other 2 bay offered in N has been turned into razor blades on the prototype. But since IM has said they plan to do them sometime between now and the heat death of the universe, I doubt any other manufacturer will touch them.

[sirenwerks]

I really wish IM would either sell out to someone who has the working capital to tool up the occasional "flyer" like a GP10 or at least stop announcing items just to

This. I am really happy with the IM F7s I have, but it is one of the company's few models that don't have issues. And its loco forays are taking away from its freight car dev.  The ownership just doesn't have the business acumen to keep his train on the tracks.  Atlas, please buy out IMRC.