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Re: Here we go, NS taking preemptive action
« Reply #75 on: October 12, 2022, 07:06:32 AM »
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This guy has an interesting perspective -- beware - he sometimes swears ..


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Re: Here we go, NS taking preemptive action
« Reply #76 on: October 12, 2022, 10:10:55 AM »
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This guy has an interesting perspective -- beware - he sometimes swears ..


Nationalization?!  Even just as a scare tactics?  Really?  In the current political climate? I can just see the RR CEOs and their lobbyists rolling on the floor laughing!

Is this guy living in some alternate universe?  As I recall, ever since the Regan era we live in a world of deregulation, huge corporate mergers (to maximize profits), and less government oversight.  This wavers a bit depending on the party in control , but I still find laughable  to even think someone would think a nationalization would be a viable option to fix problems like this.   I was going to say few other things, but that would not be prudent for this forum.
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Re: Here we go, NS taking preemptive action
« Reply #77 on: October 12, 2022, 02:42:37 PM »
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The PBE is as his only response that he controls. Any further r federal action to prevent a strike takes the US Senate.

The president can only interfere with an ongoing railroad strike through the extreme measure of ordering in federal troops to break the strike. He can also dismiss rail workers who do not return to work after Congress has passed a law imposing an agreement -- but the action is more appropriately called "self -termination."

The Senate and the House have to act in concert to end a strike or lockout -- a resolution by the Senate is not enough.
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Re: Here we go, NS taking preemptive action
« Reply #78 on: October 12, 2022, 05:35:58 PM »
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Re: Here we go, NS taking preemptive action
« Reply #79 on: October 12, 2022, 07:03:56 PM »
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My point about the Senate was that as an evenly split chamber it’s going to be the sticky wicket for a congressional solution. The Democrats hood the House so they should pass something.
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Re: Here we go, NS taking preemptive action
« Reply #80 on: October 13, 2022, 08:57:10 PM »
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My point about the Senate was that as an evenly split chamber it’s going to be the sticky wicket for a congressional solution. The Democrats hood the House so they should pass something.

Those democrats and the "most pro-union president to ever walk the earth" gave us sh!t. With his PEB recommendations,  insurance doubles, pay goes up 24%, you get one extra personal day(i just got my second personal day after 17 years out here so ill have 3) and deductibles/copays/etc are going up quite a bit. Add that to never having a cost of living increase in my 17 years and today's lovely inflation, we're losing money. The only people gaining from this crap is the tax man because were "making more", the insurance companies, and the company.
There a good image showing your "pay raise" factored in with inflation/cola/etc and were at -4.4%.
Also, the only unions that have ratified this are the piss-ant unions that don't have to travel for a living.
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Re: Here we go, NS taking preemptive action
« Reply #81 on: October 13, 2022, 09:10:49 PM »
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And now with the "how do you really feel report "....


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Re: Here we go, NS taking preemptive action
« Reply #82 on: October 13, 2022, 09:52:15 PM »
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Those democrats and the "most pro-union president to ever walk the earth" gave us sh!t.

I guess we know who you will be voting for.

Does the POTUS and rest of the congress really have the power to force companies to the kind of deal you would like to see?  Especially with all the industry lobbyists, and in the current (extremely polarized) political climate?
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Re: Here we go, NS taking preemptive action
« Reply #83 on: October 13, 2022, 09:57:58 PM »
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Re: Here we go, NS taking preemptive action
« Reply #84 on: October 13, 2022, 10:03:12 PM »
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I guess we know who you will be voting for.

Does the POTUS and rest of the congress really have the power to force companies to the kind of deal you would like to see?  Especially with all the industry lobbyists, and in the current (extremely polarized) political climate?

No. They don’t without the kind of nationalization that is in no one’s interest.

There’s a strike coming. The only real question is whether Congress forces people back to work and then everyone just quits.
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Re: Here we go, NS taking preemptive action
« Reply #85 on: October 14, 2022, 09:52:04 AM »
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No. They don’t without the kind of nationalization that is in no one’s interest.

There’s a strike coming. The only real question is whether Congress forces people back to work and then everyone just quits.

Great!
So no matter which way this goes, we (the people of United States) are majorly f'd.  We just survived the total craziness of the pandemic (still recovering), and now with the railroads shut down, I can't even imagine how much worse (and more expensive) things will get.  And who gets blamed?  The party in power.   :RUEffinKiddingMe:
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Re: Here we go, NS taking preemptive action
« Reply #86 on: October 14, 2022, 09:56:11 AM »
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Those democrats and the "most pro-union president to ever walk the earth" gave us sh!t. With his PEB recommendations,  insurance doubles, pay goes up 24%, you get one extra personal day(i just got my second personal day after 17 years out here so ill have 3) and deductibles/copays/etc are going up quite a bit. Add that to never having a cost of living increase in my 17 years and today's lovely inflation, we're losing money. The only people gaining from this crap is the tax man because were "making more", the insurance companies, and the company.
There a good image showing your "pay raise" factored in with inflation/cola/etc and were at -4.4%.
Also, the only unions that have ratified this are the piss-ant unions that don't have to travel for a living.
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The President hasn’t failed you. Your own unions failed you. It should never have taken this long. I support the railroad workers in their fight with management but put blame where it belongs. Those piss- ant unions have a right to chose and made a decision for themselves

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Re: Here we go, NS taking preemptive action
« Reply #87 on: October 14, 2022, 03:01:16 PM »
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Those democrats and the "most pro-union president to ever walk the earth" gave us sh!t. With his PEB recommendations,  insurance doubles, pay goes up 24%, you get one extra personal day(i just got my second personal day after 17 years out here so ill have 3) and deductibles/copays/etc are going up quite a bit. Add that to never having a cost of living increase in my 17 years and today's lovely inflation, we're losing money. The only people gaining from this crap is the tax man because were "making more", the insurance companies, and the company.
There a good image showing your "pay raise" factored in with inflation/cola/etc and were at -4.4%.
Also, the only unions that have ratified this are the piss-ant unions that don't have to travel for a living.
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Re: Here we go, NS taking preemptive action
« Reply #88 on: October 14, 2022, 03:05:39 PM »
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Great!
So no matter which way this goes, we (the people of United States) are majorly f'd.  We just survived the total craziness of the pandemic (still recovering), and now with the railroads shut down, I can't even imagine how much worse (and more expensive) things will get.  And who gets blamed?  The party in power.   :RUEffinKiddingMe:

Chill, dude. ;) If there's a strike -- and I'm hoping there will be -- it will last less than 48 hours. Congress will intervene to force us back to work.

But I don't think there will be a strike. Peak season is upon us, and it really ramps up with UPS trailers beginning the week of Thanksgiving. The carriers are not going to want to risk a work stoppage that jeopardizes their UPS contracts. That's their great vulnerability -- peak season.
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Re: Here we go, NS taking preemptive action
« Reply #89 on: October 14, 2022, 06:47:47 PM »
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Chill, dude. ;) If there's a strike -- and I'm hoping there will be -- it will last less than 48 hours. Congress will intervene to force us back to work.

That's me. I just speak my mind. 
If you are forced back to work that accomplishes nothing good for you.  But it keeps things moving.
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