Late 19th century wooden passenger cars

[bbunge]

In recent years, we've seen a few steamers that would right at home pulling wooden passenger cars from the late 19th/early 20th century.  In looking around, I don't see these represented in n-scale.  Any pointers, even Shapeways? 

These are normally full length, enclosed end, steel or wood frames with truss rods.  I'm not looking for open end "old timer" type cars.

Some prototypical examples:

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3996734  Strasburg #58
https://www.midcontinent.org/equipment-roster/wooden-passenger-cars/duluth-south-shore-atlantic-duluth/  Smith and Barney 10 section sleeper, 1902
https://www.strasburgrailroad.com/our-locomotives/first-class-lounge-118/ SRC #118, a B&O heavyweight coach

Have I just missed these?

Bob

[Angus Shops]

Central Hobbies in Vancouver has my resin ‘kit’ for a Canadian Pacific 72’ first class coach, as well as a 60’ baggage and express. Both cars are early 1900’s vintage and the coach has the vestibule doors you’re looking for. Both ‘kits’ are mostly assembled, but you’ll need to make the truss rods and paint the cars, and a few other bits and pieces. The Central Hobbies website has photos of both cars (not a very good one of the coach). CP’s wood cars had 3 ‘light’ transom windows that give the cars some extra style. Google “central hobbies Geoff Gooderham” and you can have a look. (Not trying flog my own stuff, but I don’t know of any other wood cars.)

Geoff

[randgust]

They've become rather rare and long out of production, but Western Railcraft did etched brass sides for a pullman-observation, a coach, and a baggage car that are really nice.

http://www.spookshow.net/passenger/wrold.html

The wood parts aren't much, but the etched side are really nice.   I've rebuilt Lima cars with these.

[craigolio1]

Central Hobbies in Vancouver has my resin ‘kit’ for a Canadian Pacific 72’ first class coach, as well as a 60’ baggage and express. Both cars are early 1900’s vintage and the coach has the vestibule doors you’re looking for. Both ‘kits’ are mostly assembled, but you’ll need to make the truss rods and paint the cars, and a few other bits and pieces. The Central Hobbies website has photos of both cars (not a very good one of the coach). CP’s wood cars had 3 ‘light’ transom windows that give the cars some extra style. Google “central hobbies Geoff Gooderham” and you can have a look. (Not trying flog my own stuff, but I don’t know of any other wood cars.)

Geoff

I’ll flog for Geoff. They are stunning models. If @CNR5529 is around maybe he can post some photos of his. They look spectacular.

Craig.

[Ed Kapuscinski]

I could definitely f with some wooden passenger cars like these.

They're pretty much my dad's holy grail.

[CNR5529]

In the spirit of hawking @Angus Shops' wares...

So I havent gotten arround to painting the wood cars yet in the final coat of Tuscan (as I have a few other cars I am finishing up now that will all get painted at the same time), but you will get a feeling for what Geoffs kits look like with these photos. His kits are pretty straightforward to build and with a little effort result in excellent unique models. Here is an in progress shot of the baggage cars, combine, and first class coach, behind an in progress A2 class 4-4-0 (stock MP shown), on an in progress module being built by @craigolio1:



Close up of the 73ft coach:

[bbunge]

Thanks all for the feedback.  The kits look fun... now if I had more time!

Bob

[Ed Kapuscinski]

Those are legit.

[thomasjmdavis]

How long did those CP baggage cars stay on the roster in more or less original form?

[CNR5529]

How long did those CP baggage cars stay on the roster in more or less original form?

I've seen photos of them in revenue service on secondary mainline trains well into the late 50's. The combines (baggage smoker) also held on that long on branchlines in mixed train service. In the Montreal area there was a collection of coaches, combine and baggage car that were kept in pristine condition into the early 60s for excursion service. As far as I can tell, by the early sixties they were pretty much all scrapped or donated to museums, at least out east. Some may have held on for a while in MOW service.

Those are legit.

Yessir! You and your old man need some of that.

[Angus Shops]

CP had quite a fleet of the 60 wood baggage cars, and a good proportion of them were rebuilt with a steel under frames and steel reinforcement of the ends of the cars. This model is one of those steel reinforced cars and they lasted well into the late 50’s and maybe the early 60’s in mainline service. Some of them sported big cowl ventilators with weathervanes on their roofs in ‘ventilator service’ for shipping fruit in the summer season on the head end ends of regular passenger trains.

The wood coaches lasted a long time as well in ‘suburban service’, which I think would have been commuter or other short distance local trains. The baggage cars, being steel reinforced, could be operated on any train, but the coaches could not be operated in a consist with steel cars.

[CNR5529]

Some of them sported big cowl ventilators with weathervanes on their roofs in ‘ventilator service’ for shipping fruit in the summer season on the head end ends of regular passenger trains.

Those ventilators would be easy enough to 3d print... just sayin

[Angus Shops]

Those ventilators would be easy enough to 3d print... just sayin

That’s weird - I was just thinking “if only I knew someone who could print those ventilators”…

[Jim Costello]

Would love to have a set of the 'Pullman Palace Cars' in N that MDC did in HO years ago...wood sides, arch style windows etc.

Jim

[spookshow]

It's a weird void in N scale. I made a couple by frankensteining old Athearn Overland cars, but those are getting hard to find.





-Mark