New run of Bowser hoppers

[Ntrainz1]

https://www.bowser-trains.com/new/nscalech.html

https://www.bowser-trains.com/new/nscaleh21.html

[nickelplate759]

Was the Maypo car real, and if so is the model of an appropriate body type?


<edit> I have a sneaking suspicion that the prototype was a toy train - like Lionel or Tyco. I haven't found a single photo of a real train with this scheme yet... </edit>

[wcfn100]

Wow, nice 40% bump from last run. 

I bought one of the USI Petroleum cars last run only to have it run on the wrong body (5 bay vs. 3 bay).  I don't know if I should chance it again and possibly end up with two incorrect cars. 

Jason

 

[Missaberoad]

Nice...

What i really want to see is the IMC potash schemes... they were all over Western Canada and the upper midwest in the late 60s / early 70s...

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I bought one of the USI Petroleum cars last run only to have it run on the wrong body (5 bay vs. 3 bay).  I don't know if I should chance it again and possibly end up with two incorrect cars. 
Jason

I have one of those saved in my ebay cart... Were they all on 6 bay bodies?
Might wait and see if the new run is correct.

[wcfn100]

Might wait and see if the new run is correct.

I sent a fairly passive aggressive e-mail to bowser saying I hoped that 40% price hike will include the correct body.

I never thought about it, but I guess there could be 3 bay versions out there from the first run.  I was told that they just grabbed whatever they had.

Jason

[Missaberoad]

I sent a fairly passive aggressive e-mail to bowser saying I hoped that 40% price hike will include the correct body.

I never thought about it, but I guess there could be 3 bay versions out there from the first run.  I was told that they just grabbed whatever they had.

Jason

I wonder... I can't find a picture of one with 3 bays, but funny enough I found artwork showing both 3 and 6 bays...

[Missaberoad]

Was the Maypo car real, and if so is the model of an appropriate body type?

I can't find any photos of this series, but fwiw multiple companies have produced this scheme...

If anyone has a copy of the Classic Freight Car Series covered hopper books, might be worth checking...

[wcfn100]

I wonder... I can't find a picture of one with 3 bays, but funny enough I found artwork showing both 3 and 6 bays...

Where did you find artwork with 6 bays?


Jason

[Missaberoad]

Where did you find artwork with 6 bays?
Jason

https://www.ingolov.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=36694

Its the only place I found it.

I think I'm going to hold off and see if the new run is corrected...

[wcfn100]

https://www.ingolov.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=36694

Its the only place I found it.

I think I'm going to hold off and see if the new run is corrected...

I think that's a doctored photo with four gates facing the same way.  Can't find any other 5 bay drawings to see what they look like.  I have some memory of this after I raised the issue to Bowser but can't really remember enough to be sure.

I would certainly wait if you can.  It's not just the bays, but the roof is different as well between the two styles.

edit:  Looking at some of the artwork for other cars, it looks like Bowser did this with a bunch of cars where they would show the artwork with 3 bays but run the car with 6. 





Jason

[wcfn100]

FWIW, I heard back from Lee at Bowser and he said these* will be the 3 bay body.

edit: * I only asked about the USI Petroleum cars.


Jason

[cjm413]

Where did you find artwork with 6 bays?


Jason

There shouldn't be any since they only make two 3 bay variants (one with 3 outlets, one with 6 outlets) 

[Missaberoad]

FWIW, I heard back from Lee at Bowser and he said these will be the 3 bay body.
Jason

Nice, I'll wait and see if I can pickup a couple from this run then...

There shouldn't be any since they only make two 3 bay variants (one with 3 outlets, one with 6 outlets) 

That brings up a question, does the term "bay" refer to compartments or outlets? 

Since a 3 bay open hopper is technically 1 compartment 

[cjm413]

Nice, I'll wait and see if I can pickup a couple from this run then...

That brings up a question, does the term "bay" refer to compartments or outlets? 

Since a 3 bay open hopper is technically 1 compartment 

Well played 

[cjm413]

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Another thing to watch out for is a roof insert that doesn't match the body.

Notwithstanding the trough hatch roof insert, cars with three outlets should have 6 inlets, cars with 6 outlets should have 5 inlets.

It's not a problem when buying a lot of pre-owned cars for dirt cheap that I eventually plan to strip, upgrade, and repaint, but it's pretty obnoxious when paying the cost of a new release...