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I searched through my books and so far I only found one shot of these in freight service other than what Doug shared. Having trouble sharing the photo, but it is a picture of an A unit in 1959 still in Tuscan with five stripes on coal branch service at Cresson.
One of the Bowser cabooses is labeled for REA interestingly enough.
On a serious note, the yellow cupola pool use….does east west refer the eastern and western reaches of the Pennsylvania system or is it pool service outside their system?
Inside the system. Think: "this car isn't assigned to an individual crew". I believe it was a thing mainly used on mainline trains (so not the fun stuff we're seeing in this thread).
I found a nice write-up on these at one of Jerry Britton's pages:https://jbritton.pennsyrr.com/index.php/tpm/latest-articles-blog/186-prr-alco-cab-unitsNear the end, he says that all the passenger PA's were regeared for dual service in 1953-54, so I would expect there to be a lot of examples of these being used in freight service after that. Of course, it's possible the PRR was expecting to use them that way, but didn't end up doing it as much as they thought.
Cool resource! And one set did stay in DGLE. So my road # may be off and it may have 4 more strips, but close enough for a guy who models Chicago and west!“In late 1952-53, all were regeared for dual service and reclassified as AFP20. All remained in Tuscan Red paint except for 5757A and 5758A.”
If you are talking about pooling of cabin cars, that didn't begin until the mid- 1960s. Certainly none in the 1950s. Management did ongoing negotiating battle with the brotherhoods during the 50s and the Unions resisted accepting pooling because the men assigned to a particular cabin tended to take care of the maintenance themselves rather than rely on pool maintenance. Faulty weather stripping and sticking sliding windows were the major points of contention. Finally, the Unions relented in the early 1960s (including the NY Region) and agreed to accept pooled cabin cars BUT only after the fleet had received significant upgrades. This included all new aluminum window sash, flush toilets, electric refrigerators, new oil fired stoves for heat, electric marker lights and new weather stripping around doors.Obviously PRR management couldn't achieve this feat overnight so pooling was gradually phased in over time as the upgrade mods were completed. After a cabin became pooled, the cupola was painted yellow. Much of the window sash replacement work was performed at small outlying shops. We did a bunch of them at Northumberland in 1964 as just one example.I don't remember the exact date, but most freights were pooled by about 1966-67. Locally assigned cabin cars were not pooled and retained their black cupolas. By locally assigned cabin cars I am talking about cabins assigned to switching crews in the major cities like Chicago, Northern NJ, Phila-Camden etc etc.Bill Volkmer
From the PRR email list recently. Felt it was applicable.
I am not sure why this was moved to prototype since my question had to do with matching two models together. That seems to me more of a product discussion.
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