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        ;)  I wanted to see how some of the Canadian and Via Rail equipment performed on my DC home layout so I  got out my Canadian Maroon 10 car set for testing, no add on cars. I have two of the Model Power metal (heavy) FP 7 locomotives in the CP maroon paint scheme, I know these are not really accurate for locomotives that pulled the train, but they look good. It took me about a half an hour to set up the first part of the train with one locomotive, the cars are hard to put on the tracks even with one of those plastic re rail wedges and my shaking senior hands, also I had to lift a couple of couplers over each other. once on the tracks the MP locomotive which is very quiet, no gear noise pulled the first five cars with no problem, the dome lighting is really bright, I wish there was away to turn  them  off separately as the train at night would have been lighted with darkened domes, except at station stops. The train tracked flawlessly no derailing and some flicker of the lights at a couple of rail joiners. For the big test it took another half an hour to get the rest of the 10 cars on the track and coupled up. The two FP 7's coupled back to back had no problem pulling all 10 cars. I did not want to tempt fate and add the add on cars. the whole train looks great, the wheels on this set do not seem to have the led sled effect. Nice Job Rapido Trains. Now for the correct DCC locomotives to pull my CP, Via sets and add on Luxury Via cars at train shows on the Wasatch N Scale DCC layout. Nate Goodman. (Nato). Salt Lake, Utah.     :)
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Re: One locomotive pulls half a Canadian Set ,2 locos pull 10 Car Set
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2021, 06:46:35 PM »
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Thanks for the info Nate.

I'm not sure I understand your "not wanting to tempt faith" statement.  What are you afraid of? That the loco mechanism, or their motors will get damaged?  Or just that the locos will slip their wheels, not able to pull the entire set?

In my years of experience  running and servicing/repairing N scale locos I have never seen any damage caused by "overloading" a loco.  The models are light enough that the wheels will slip, but the wheels can slip all day and the drive train and motor will not get damaged.  Even if the model  has traction tires, the wheels will still slip (the motor is *THAT* powerful relative to the model's weight).  If you let such loco slip for a very long time I suspect that there is a possibility of the traction tire coming off or getting damaged, but that would also take a while to happen.

Back in the day, when some members ran mutli-unit lash-ups of mismatched speed DC locos on our NTRAK layouts during shows, some of the locos had their wheels slipping continuously, yet  they were fine after an hour of running time (out assigned track time was 1 hour).  I know barbecue I was the guy who serviced many of those models.

I would say that you should be 100% safe even trying to run the entire 10-car set and even more with a single loco, and finding out how successful it would be.
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Re: One locomotive pulls half a Canadian Set ,2 locos pull 10 Car Set
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2021, 11:43:02 PM »
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Thanks for the info Nate.

I'm not sure I understand your "not wanting to tempt faith" statement.  What are you afraid of? That the loco mechanism, or their motors will get damaged?  Or just that the locos will slip their wheels, not able to pull the entire set?

In my years of experience  running and servicing/repairing N scale locos I have never seen any damage caused by "overloading" a loco.  The models are light enough that the wheels will slip, but the wheels can slip all day and the drive train and motor will not get damaged.  Even if the model  has traction tires, the wheels will still slip (the motor is *THAT* powerful relative to the model's weight).  If you let such loco slip for a very long time I suspect that there is a possibility of the traction tire coming off or getting damaged, but that would also take a while to happen.

Back in the day, when some members ran mutli-unit lash-ups of mismatched speed DC locos on our NTRAK layouts during shows, some of the locos had their wheels slipping continuously, yet  they were fine after an hour of running time (out assigned track time was 1 hour).  I know barbecue I was the guy who serviced many of those models.

I would say that you should be 100% safe even trying to run the entire 10-car set and even more with a single loco, and finding out how successful it would be.

I mean hell, there's that guy James with the Union MRR club who casually runs 500 car trains on NTrak setups with 4 Micro Trains FTs without much issue in the overheating department. Certain even if every one of those coaches had the rolling issues the FPs should have no issue with respect to heat.
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Re: One locomotive pulls half a Canadian Set ,2 locos pull 10 Car Set
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2021, 01:26:11 AM »
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 :|    For some unknown reason I can not Replay to the members replying to my Locomotive Pulls post. I can view the replies but there i some way to reply, at the bottom I get a symbol and "Logged". Yes I know the locomotive would not burn up their motors some old old  1960's locos might. Yes there would be wheel spin and I probably should have kept adding cars until that occurred. Nate Goodman (Nato).   :|

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Re: One locomotive pulls half a Canadian Set ,2 locos pull 10 Car Set
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2021, 01:29:01 AM »
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  :oops:  Ah, I did not scroll down far enough to see Reply. Nate Goodman.(Nato).  :oops:

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Re: One locomotive pulls half a Canadian Set ,2 locos pull 10 Car Set
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2021, 02:16:56 AM »
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Replay me.  :D

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Re: One locomotive pulls half a Canadian Set ,2 locos pull 10 Car Set
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2021, 02:40:26 AM »
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Yes, please replay me too.  ;)
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« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2021, 03:02:12 AM »
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Nate is really into (Japanese) Anime, so I'm not surprised at his apparent use of Engrish.  :D ;)

Nate, the "Logged" tag is at the top right of each post that is not yours.  To reply while quoting someone's post, you need to click on "Quote" link on the top right of each post.  Or if you just want to replay, just click on  the "Reply" button at the bottom right of the thread.

If you are up for it, try and see how many cars a single loco will pull without spinning its wheels.  :)
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« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2021, 03:06:26 AM »
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  :oops:  Ah, I did not scroll down far enough to see Reply. Nate Goodman.(Nato).  :oops:

It happens to the best of us.  ;)

If you are up for it, see how many cars can single loco pull without slipping its wheels.
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