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Re: Rapido Trains - New GP20
« Reply #45 on: June 22, 2021, 06:21:05 PM »
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Looks like the railings are all molded from soft plastic. They seem to sag, just like on Atlas tank cars.  Too bad they do not use metal rods, but I als understand that it would require additional labor to install (thus higher cost).

IIRC, @GaryHinshaw was unhappy enough with the Atlas cars that he replaced the sagging plastic with metal rods.
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Re: Rapido Trains - New GP20
« Reply #46 on: June 22, 2021, 06:29:32 PM »
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Looks like the railings are all molded from soft plastic. They seem to sag, just like on Atlas tank cars.  Too bad they do not use metal rods, but I als understand that it would require additional labor to install (thus higher cost).

IIRC, @GaryHinshaw was unhappy enough with the Atlas cars that he replaced the sagging plastic with metal rods.

He did. Those might just be placeholder parts, or perhaps Rapido will upgrade the final models to metal safety bars.
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Re: Rapido Trains - New GP20
« Reply #47 on: June 22, 2021, 08:21:37 PM »
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Well, yes and no.  I've been replacing sagging metal rails with better steel wire on several models.  But I do have a replacement in the works for the Atlas Kaolin tanker (and a few others) that replaces a floppy one-piece guard-rail+stanchions part with printed stanchions and steel wire.  I haven't posted that one yet though. 

May have to do the same with this car.  ;)

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Re: Rapido Trains - New GP20
« Reply #48 on: July 01, 2021, 10:49:56 AM »
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So are there different roadnames for a second release? UTLX? CITX? Any other common tank car reporting marks that showed on these cars that Rapido isn't offering in round 1? I can only really justify the modern PROCOR markings from this run.

Probably not much other that other PROCOR full-paint jobs, instead of patched out versions with the modern logo on top of patches obscuring the original "split-P" logo.

As noted earlier, cars were built until about 1984, they started using PROX instead of UTLX marks in 1981, and the new logo introduced in 1977.

The Procor schemes done so far:

Original logo w/ original UTLX marks
Original logo w/ patched PROX marks
Modern logo on patched out original logos (2 versions)
Govt of Alberta lease w/ original UTLX marks
Govt of Alberta lease w/ PROX marks

More variations that are possible:

Modern logo w/ UTLX marks (1977-1981 build batches)
Modern logo w/ PROX marks (no patches) (1981+ build batches or full repaints)

Not sure how many other un-covered schemes are there.

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Re: Rapido Trains - New GP20
« Reply #49 on: July 01, 2021, 11:50:40 AM »
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What is the purpose of the two "smoke stakes" on these cars?  I've never seen them on any other tank cars.

Lots of/most non-pressure general-service tanks have similar pressure-release vents, just they're often mounted closer to the manway/main fittings and not as far outboard as the Procor cars.

e.g. you can see a vent stack just outside the top railings on these cars:

http://canadianfreightcargallery.ca/cgi-bin/image.pl?i=acfx86659&o=ge_railcar
http://canadianfreightcargallery.ca/cgi-bin/image.pl?i=admx26197&o=admx
http://canadianfreightcargallery.ca/cgi-bin/image.pl?i=bnbx500108&o=gbrx

Just a short random select of G-P tanks from various builders and years of manufacture.

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Re: Rapido Trains - New GP20
« Reply #50 on: July 17, 2021, 11:46:59 AM »
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I love these guys.

Great video on the cars.


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Re: Rapido Trains - New GP20
« Reply #51 on: July 17, 2021, 12:44:19 PM »
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I love these guys.

Great video on the cars.

Not just pushing the envelope, but licking the envelope! :D


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Re: Rapido Trains - New GP20
« Reply #52 on: July 17, 2021, 01:34:19 PM »
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What is this, 1973?  Hmm wonder which N scale company that is a shot at?

Well played overall, but very weak job on the post credit segment.  Watch some clips of Marvel post credit scenes and get back to us.  :D  Always throw in an Easter egg on upcoming items.
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Re: Rapido Trains - New GP20
« Reply #53 on: July 17, 2021, 10:15:04 PM »
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Funny when I humbly asked (ok I begged) them to please make the ski train into N…. I was told by them…. “Sorry but N scale doesn’t sale”….. I will leave it at that.

Nice tank car though

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Re: Rapido Trains - New GP20
« Reply #54 on: July 17, 2021, 11:50:08 PM »
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Well, yes and no.  I've been replacing sagging metal rails with better steel wire on several models.  But I do have a replacement in the works for the Atlas Kaolin tanker (and a few others) that replaces a floppy one-piece guard-rail+stanchions part with printed stanchions and steel wire.  I haven't posted that one yet though. 

May have to do the same with this car.  ;)


I've been meaning to ask what 3D printer you use for those mods you've been doing.  The walkways on your mods look great!
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Re: Rapido Trains - New GP20
« Reply #55 on: July 18, 2021, 12:40:25 AM »
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I've been meaning to ask what 3D printer you use for those mods you've been doing.  The walkways on your mods look great!

Since I got the answer before to the same question.

It really depends.  My focus has been mostly on small detail parts and conversion kits (e.g. this post), and for that the regular Mono has been outstanding, nay game-changing.  That said, the footprint of the build plate is ~3" x 5.5" which limits you to something like a 50-60' car in N scale if you print it horizontally.   The vertical build volume is ~6.5", so you can go a bit larger if you can print your model vertically.  For anything larger, you'll need the Mono X (at ~3 times the price).

I'm mezzo-mezzo on the Wash & Cure.  I have the 2.0 and I use it regularly for curing, but I've stopped using it for washing.  I find that the propellor stirs up a lot of residue during a wash, which can do more harm than good if the solution and vat are not very clean.  I now just manually dip parts in a sequence of two IPA baths (an old one and a newish one), followed by a quick finish dip in acetone.  That works great (though use care: some resins don't like acetone).  Bottom line: if you have a decent UV source that you can control, you can probably do without the station, but I do like having a controlled cure cycle,  so it's been worth it for me.

And I have to agree, once I got a flow going its been a blast getting just being able to make anything I want on command... err over a few hours but still.
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Re: Rapido Trains - New GP20
« Reply #56 on: July 18, 2021, 03:13:02 AM »
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Thanks @dem34 - saved me the search for the that post.  :)  I hope that answers your question Bryan.

About Rapido's demo model: I hope they do something about that wonky railing around the loading hatch.  Otherwise the car looks pretty nice.

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Re: Rapido Trains - New GP20
« Reply #57 on: July 18, 2021, 08:47:49 PM »
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I sure hope they do the RROL (Railroad of Lies) in the second run!  ;)

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Re: Rapido Trains - New GP20
« Reply #58 on: July 18, 2021, 09:08:32 PM »
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Thanks @dem34 - saved me the search for the that post.  :)  I hope that answers your question Bryan.

About Rapido's demo model: I hope they do something about that wonky railing around the loading hatch.  Otherwise the car looks pretty nice.

Agree; it's not great. I think I had MDC tank car kits in the 80s with maybe a better top railing. Their ladders were pretty horrid, though.
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Re: Rapido Trains - New GP20 Tank Car
« Reply #59 on: June 15, 2022, 09:58:57 AM »
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Rapid now shows these as "In Stock" - so we should be seeing them at e-tailers soon!

https://rapidotrains.com/product-delivery-schedule